AFC North vs. AFC South: Best Division All Pro Team

diabsoule · 05-13-2009, 10:09 AM

AFC North
QB - Ben Roethlisberger (PIT)
RB - Willie Parker (PIT)
FB - Le'Ron McClain (BAL)
WR - Hines Ward (PIT)
WR - Chad Ochocinco (CIN)
TE - Heath Miller (PIT)
LT - Joe Thomas (CLE)
LG - Eric Steinbach (CLE)
C - Matt Birk (BAL)
RG - Ben Grubbs (BAL)
RT - Jared Gaither (BAL)

DE - Aaron Smith (PIT)
NT - Shaun Rogers (CLE)
DE - Haloti Ngata (BAL)
OLB - James Harrison (PIT)
ILB - Ray Lewis (BAL)
ILB - James Farrior (PIT)
OLB - Terrell Suggs (BAL)
CB - Leon Hall (CIN)
CB - Ike Taylor (PIT)
FS - Ed Reed (BAL)
SS - Troy Polamalu (SS)

5 Notable Reserves: DE/OLB LaMarr Woodley (PIT), WR Braylon Edwards (CLE), CB Eric Wright (CLE), LB D'Qwell Jackson (CLE), WR Derrick Mason (BAL)

AFC South
QB - Peyton Manning - Colts
RB - Maurice Jones-Drew - Jaguars
FB - Greg Jones - Jaguars
WR - Andre Johnson - Texans
WR - Reggie Wayne - Colts
TE - Dallas Clark - Colts
LT - Michael Roos - Titans
LG - Vince Manuwai - Jaguars
C - Kevin Mawae - Titans
RG - Jake Scott - Titans
RT - David Stewart - Titans

LE - Mario Williams - Texans
DT - John Henderson - Jaguars
DT - Tony Brown - Titans
RE - Dwight Freeney - Colts
WLB - David Thornton - Titans
MLB - DeMeco Ryans - Texans
SLB - Keith Bullock - Titans
CB - Cortland Finnegan - Titans
CB - Rashean Mathis - Jaguars
FS - Michael Griffin - Titans
SS - Bob Sanders - Colts

5 Notable Reserves: DE Kyle Vanden Bosch (TEN), WR Torry Holt (JAX), CB Kelvin Hayden (IND), DE Robert Mathis (IND), TE Owen Daniels (HOU)

falloutboy14 · 05-13-2009, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by diabsoule

5 Notable Reserves: DE Kyle Vanden Bosch (TEN), WR Torry Holt (JAX), CB Kelvin Hayden (IND), DT Amobi Okoye (HOU), TE Owen Daniels (HOU)

Don't forget Robert Mathis. The AFC South has to have the best set of DEs in the league.

cdub11 · 05-13-2009, 10:25 AM

This is the best matchup so far

diabsoule · 05-13-2009, 10:43 AM

I have a feeling, though, that the AFC North would win. Peyton Manning struggled against 3-4 defenses and this is a beastly 3-4.

AFCN DL vs. AFCS OL - I think this is a wash. Both are extremely balanced.
AFCN OL vs. AFCS DL - Slight edge to the AFC North OL. Their just more well-rounded, esp. the left side of their line.

Ravens1991 · 05-13-2009, 10:45 AM

I think that front 7 would terrorize Manning. But AFC south defense is good also. It would be a great game

RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES · 05-13-2009, 10:47 AM

Ravens Defense + Steelers Defense would be unstoppable I don't care who is on the offense.

Gay Ork Wang · 05-13-2009, 10:49 AM

oh man Peyton Manning to Andre Johnson, Wayne or MJD

Mr. Hero · 05-13-2009, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by falloutboy14

Don't forget Robert Mathis. The AFC South has to have the best set of DEs in the league.

Osi, Tuck, Cole, Carter, Kiwi and sometimes Ware? Or how about Peppers, Abraham, Adams, Smith and Grant? I don't think any division really has the best DEs, the AFCS, NFCS and NFCE all have some great DEs.

falloutboy14 · 05-13-2009, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by diabsoule

I have a feeling, though, that the AFC North would win. Peyton Manning struggled against 3-4 defenses and this is a beastly 3-4.

Since the '03 season, Peyton's 13-1 against the AFC North. 12-0 in the regular season, 1-1 in the playoffs. The 3-4 may give Manning fits, but the Steelers/Ravens not-so-much.

Bigburt63 · 05-13-2009, 11:49 AM

this is definitely the best matchup thus far. The AFCN 3-4 is just ridiculous, but that offense for the AFCS is insane in its own right

terribletowel39 · 05-13-2009, 11:56 AM

If it was Fred Taylor still with Jags and he was the RB, I would say there was a better chance for the South to win. But as is, I don't know if any team could move the ball too effectively on that defense. Sickness.

Just noticed every player on the AFCN defense (minus the CBs) are in the debate for top player at their position. That is CRAZY.

The Unseen · 05-13-2009, 12:14 PM

I voted AFC South to represent, but thinking it over the AFC North is probably better. That defense is sick.

themaninblack · 05-13-2009, 12:38 PM

I don't know if I would put Leon Hall on the team ahead of Johnathan Joseph but if this is supposed to reflect last season then I can buy it. I would also go say Andrew Whitworth is a better LG than Eric Steinbach but thats really just splittin hairs with that one.

As for the matchup, this one is a pretty good one but I think the AFCN defense would ultimately win out. Doesn't get much better than that, IMO.

terribletowel39 · 05-13-2009, 12:44 PM

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I don't know if I would put Leon Hall on the team ahead of Johnathan Joseph but if this is supposed to reflect last season then I can buy it. I would also go say Andrew Whitworth is a better LG than Eric Steinbach but thats really just splittin hairs with that one.

As for the matchup, this one is a pretty good one but I think the AFCN defense would ultimately win out. Doesn't get much better than that, IMO.

I agree with you on Joseph. Definitely better than every other corner in the AFCN not named Ike Taylor. And he has the potential to be top 6-7 in the NFL.

Crazy_Chris · 05-13-2009, 01:37 PM

I like the AFC north defense too much to vote against them here. That front 7 is fully capable of shutting down the running game by itself. Ed Reed and Troy Polamalu will be having fun with some bad passes created by the pressure of James Harrison and Terrel Suggs, and Lamar Woodley.

eaglesalltheway · 05-13-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cdub11

This is the best matchup so far

Agreed, this was really tough for me, but it came down to the trenches, and I think when you include Harrison and Suggs roles, that put that DL at an advantage over the AFC South, OL. Though the south has a beastly DL as well, the North's OL is notably better than the south's OL, and they would be able to match up better that the South's OL does to the North's DL.

jkpigskin · 05-13-2009, 01:54 PM

this matchup is a clear cut case of strong O vs. Strong D. And ill go with the sick D of the afc north.

eaglesalltheway · 05-13-2009, 02:04 PM

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this matchup is a clear cut case of strong O vs. Strong D. And ill go with the sick D of the afc north.

The South's D was wpretty good too, lots of talent in the LB corp especially, and a good, young secondary.

jkpigskin · 05-13-2009, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by eaglesalltheway

The South's D was wpretty good too, lots of talent in the LB corp especially, and a good, young secondary.

yea, no doubt since this is an allstar team for the divisions.
I just see the explosiveness of Peyton and Co. vs. the 2 best D's in the league

BmoreBlackByrdz · 05-13-2009, 02:29 PM

Dominquie Foxworth should be starting over Leon Hall. But anyways, I voted for the North, just way too much talent on the defense. A crazy pass rush along with the 2 best safeties NFL. That unit would just simply overwhelm opposing offenses, they'd have to account for Suggs, Harrison, Reed, Polumalu, and Lewis every play.

themaninblack · 05-13-2009, 02:37 PM

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I agree with you on Joseph. Definitely better than every other corner in the AFCN not named Ike Taylor. And he has the potential to be top 6-7 in the NFL.

Leon is a great CB in his own right but I feel like JJ could be one of the top CBs in the NFL as far as his potential. He probably has the skill set to be even better than Ike(and Ike is no slouch), but he would need to be healthy for a change. Those two(Leon and JJ) form one of the best young CB duos in the NFL IMO.

This division is actually going to have a pretty nice stable of CBs this year with the addition of Foxworth along with the emergence of Leon and Jonathan Joseph, which has been somewhat of a weak point in years past.

diabsoule · 05-13-2009, 02:44 PM

Keep the votes coming in!

Tomorrow will be the final matchup between the NFC North vs. NFC South.

Also coming up will be the championship rounds! AFC East vs. the winner of the AFC North vs. AFC South matchup and the NFC East vs. the winner of the NFC North vs. NFC South matchup.

eaglesalltheway · 05-13-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jkpigskin

yea, no doubt since this is an allstar team for the divisions.
I just see the explosiveness of Peyton and Co. vs. the 2 best D's in the league

Even relative to the all-star teams, that is a great LB corp, with great talent all over the place, even when you stack it up against the other all-star teams, it is just as good if not better than most.

cunit2k9 · 05-13-2009, 03:18 PM

This is a great matchup. AFC North defense takes it though.

DoughBoy · 05-13-2009, 03:43 PM

Ill make my case and say the titans O- line handled the Ravens and the Steelers when they played- nobody is going to be touching Peyton.