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Old 05-19-2009, 11:34 PM    (permalink
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Abaddon41_80 is correct. VD's hands are the biggest thing holding him back. He drops way too many passes. The team has zero confidence in him. The 9er offense is usually run-run-pass. Well, the team doesn't really target him on third down since they can't afford the drop and subsequent punt.
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Old 05-20-2009, 02:27 AM    (permalink
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Hmmm, am I the only one that thought this was a thread bumped from two years ago? I didn't think anyone would still be putting Vernon Davis and Pro Bowl in the same sentence.
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Hmmm, am I the only one that thought this was a thread bumped from two years ago? I didn't think anyone would still be putting Vernon Davis and Pro Bowl in the same sentence.
Seriously. Let's let him become an above average TE before we start talking about him in the Pro Bowl.

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Maybe I'm trippin but wasn't Vernon Davis a Pro Bowl Alternate?
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Yes he was a pro bowl alternate last year.
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Vernon Davis has short arms. His workout numbers mislead people into thinking it translated into a receiving tightend. It didnt.
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As long as Witten remains productive, the star on his helmet will get him voted in.
Or maybe his numbers, production, and play on the field will get him voted in? I just hate people who continually use this excuse, we weren't politicing players to get into the pro bowl like the Redskins were last year.


Terrance Newman was nowhere to be found in the pro bowl last year, Marion Barber, Tony Romo, but all year people were assuming the same thing about them...We all know the Pro Bowl is a joke, and the more primetime games a team gets the better chance a certain player has to make it, but I wish people would stop acting like Cowboys just get voted in every year just because they play for Dallas.
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Or maybe his numbers, production, and play on the field will get him voted in? I just hate people who continually use this excuse, we weren't politicing players to get into the pro bowl like the Redskins were last year.


Terrance Newman was nowhere to be found in the pro bowl last year, Marion Barber, Tony Romo, but all year people were assuming the same thing about them...We all know the Pro Bowl is a joke, and the more primetime games a team gets the better chance a certain player has to make it, but I wish people would stop acting like Cowboys just get voted in every year just because they play for Dallas.
This is a very good point, but I am afraid it is your cross to bear until the memory of Roy Williams fades.
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His work ethic is great, he gives 100% and is a solid tightend. The 49ers have failed to use him the way they should, that will change this season. He is one of the top blocking tightends in the NFL, with more balls thrown his way I expect him to move up in the receiving ranks to. As far as the pro-bowl, who knows... The pro-bowl is ********.
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Looks like he's having his best offseason yet, and he's starting to get more involved with the offense:

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Another receiver who looked good today was tight end Vernon Davis, who seems to be a bit slimmer (read: less muscle-bound) this season. On three occasions, Davis leapt with his arms stretched high to bring down a pass. On one of those catches, Davis was inadvertently knocked down from behind by Washington. This is supposed to be a non-contact practice (tell that to Dominique Zeigler) and the collision was one that Davis, no stranger to practice fisticuffs, might have taken exception to in the past. This time, Davis merely popped back up and continued running down the field with the ball.
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Him living up to his potential is one thing, there's also the Pro Bowl politics. The other guys in the conference.

As long as Witten remains productive, the star on his helmet will get him voted in. Chris Cooley is a Pro Bowl TE. And now Kellen Winslow is in Tampa. Jeremy Shockey has a year under his belt and might be as healthy as he can be, if he puts up really good numbers he could very well get the nod.

Davis needs a breakout season to help him get the cred for next year, maybe. But him being very productive and effective in and of itself is more important than the Pro Bowl nod. If he plays well, you'd hope that sort of thing works itself out and recognition deserved is obtained, although it hasn't yet with Dallas Clark of the Colts.
I completely agree with what you've said, but that got me thinking. With Winslow AND Tony G out of the AFC, do you think Clark might see his time in the sun?

Clark, to me, was always that deserving player but on the fringe as far as popularity goes. When the AFC had both Gates and Gonzalez it would have been hard for anyone to be voted in ahead of them.
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Abaddon41_80 is correct. VD's hands are the biggest thing holding him back. He drops way too many passes. The team has zero confidence in him. The 9er offense is usually run-run-pass. Well, the team doesn't really target him on third down since they can't afford the drop and subsequent punt.
They didn't target him on 3rd down because he was busy being an offensive tackle. He also only had 5 drops last season. It's true that he can improve his hands and his route-running but it's difficult to put up any type of numbers when he's only thrown to 2 or 3 times a game.
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Well, it appears that Vernon Davis actually can catch, despite reports to the contrary. Why the Niners didn't force feed the football to him from Day One of his rookie year is beyond me. (Mike Martz is an idiot).

Dropping balls occasionally doesn't mean you can't catch. I like that Terp to Terp connection in SF, hopefully it will pay off for all parties involved.
This is a guy I still believe is capable of putting up WR numbers and really is the 49ers best receiver.

If he stays healthy, he's gonna set franchise highs in TDs and yards, IMO.

EDIT: Franchise highs for the TE position.

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Davis still has at least one drop in each game this year
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Vernon could very well deserve to be a pro bowl this year because of his blocking and improved receiving, but as long as Witten and Cooley keep producing consistently like they have they aren't losing their spots any time soon, although Cooley could be sacrificed because of how bad the Skins are.
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I assume you mean TE highs in TDs and yards, not overall receiving TDs and yards.
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Factoring in blocking, Marcedes Lewis is still > Davis.
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Factoring in blocking, Marcedes Lewis is still > Davis.
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HAHAHA. LMFAO. Marcedes Lewis? Holy ****. That was funny.
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Factoring in blocking, Marcedes Lewis is still > Davis.
Seriously? Vernon Davis is an amazing blocker, he's like having an extra o-lineman out there alot of time. He's actually more known for his blocking than his receiving at this point in his career.
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Factoring in blocking, Marcedes Lewis is still > Davis.
Lewis is an average blocker, at best. Davis is one of, if not the best, blocking starting tight end in the league.
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