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Old 10-07-2009, 11:19 AM    (permalink
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Lewis is an average blocker, at best. Davis is one of, if not the best, blocking starting tight end in the league.
Fail, fail, fail, fail, fail. Lewis is actually a better blocker than receiver.

Their careers are actually eerily similar. They were considered dominant receiving threats coming out who couldn't block. In the NFL, they learned how to block very, very well but forgot how to catch. And this season, they're playing much more complete games.
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Fail, fail, fail, fail, fail. Lewis is actually a better blocker than receiver.

Their careers are actually eerily similar. They were considered dominant receiving threats coming out who couldn't block. In the NFL, they learned how to block very, very well but forgot how to catch. And this season, they're playing much more complete games.
Yeah but only VD was chosen as a pro bowl alternate based solely on blocking
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Yeah but only VD was chosen as a pro bowl alternate based solely on blocking
I'm not trying to argue against VD's blocking ability, or that Lewis is a better blocker than him. Just that Lewis has developed into a very good blocking TE in his own right.
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I'm glad Vernon Davis is having success this year. I thought he was the shizz coming out of Maryland. I even took him in like the sixth round of my FF Draft his rookie year.
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I guess the games when Lewis demonstrates his blocking ability must be home games because whenever I see him play, he is a better receiver than blocker.
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I like Davis, but he has zero chance to make the pro-bowl as long as Witten and Gonzalez are in the conference. There is a decent chance he could beat out Kellen Winslow, who is stuck on a terrible team.
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I'm glad Vernon Davis is having success this year. I thought he was the shizz coming out of Maryland. I even took him in like the sixth round of my FF Draft his rookie year.
Yeah it is about time. I was contemplating buying a Vernon Davis jersey when he was drafted cause I thought he was going to be a flat out stud.

It just seems as if drafting a TE THAT early isn't really justified.
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I like Davis, but he has zero chance to make the pro-bowl as long as Witten and Gonzalez are in the conference. There is a decent chance he could beat out Kellen Winslow, who is stuck on a terrible team.
Ha I totally forgot Gonzo was in the NFC now. So yeah he and Witten will be the pro bowlers. There are only 2 TE's selected. Anyways no way in hell VD would pass Cooley. Winslow probably, but not Cooley, he's arguably one of the top 3 most consistent TE's in the league receiving although isn't anywhere near Witten in blocking.
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I like Davis, but he has zero chance to make the pro-bowl as long as Witten and Gonzalez are in the conference. There is a decent chance he could beat out Kellen Winslow, who is stuck on a terrible team.
So far it looks like Brent Celek is having a pro bowl season. He won't make it though considering it's just as much a popularity contest as anything.

22-245-2 in 3 games.
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So far it looks like Brent Celek is having a pro bowl season. He won't make it though considering it's just as much a popularity contest as anything.

22-245-2 in 3 games.
celek is not really close to the others though
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Celek is pretty tight tho.
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Celek is pretty tight tho.
but not on the level of Witten, Cooley or Gonzo at all, without the popularity contest. He had 4 games so far and im not sure, but i dont think he is as covered as tightly as others
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but not on the level of Witten, Cooley or Gonzo at all, without the popularity contest. He had 4 games so far and im not sure, but i dont think he is as covered as tightly as others
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And Celek has already had his bye week. The only other one that you mentioned that also has is Gonzo.

I know it's still early in the season and stats don't mean everything, but if you would watch him play, you would think he is deserving so far. He has done a fine job blocking and when he catches the ball, he is like a bull, almost always needing 3-4 guys to bring him down. Who would have thought Cortland Finnegan would have made the pro bowl last year? Every year there's a couple of guys who no one expects that break out and become great players, and I think Celek is one of them this season. If he was a 1st round pick and not a 5th, there would be no doubt.
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well 3 games makes it even worse. thats a really erally really small sample then to suggest he could make the pro bowl. Grossman looked MVP like the first 5 games in 06
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well 3 games makes it even worse. thats a really erally really small sample then to suggest he could make the pro bowl. Grossman looked MVP like the first 5 games in 06
True, that's why I keep saying so far. I'll even be surprised if he keeps up this pace for the rest of the season.
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Well he can be the second stringer after Celek ;)
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is he gonna make the pro bowl? i hope so i got him on my fantasy team and so far thats turned out pretty well
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is he gonna make the pro bowl? i hope so i got him on my fantasy team and so far thats turned out pretty well
lol, funny thing is my league let me snake both Dallas Clark and Vernon Davis, and they're the top two leading TE's in our league - Sucks I can only start one.
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Can we all agree there are more gifted, playmaking TEs starting in the NFL today than there has ever been in the history of the league??

Nowadays it seems as if every other team has a potential difference maker at TE. TEs are expected to do more than move the chains in today's game, they're expected to be able to win games flat out.
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If you go back ten years and there was Tony Gonzalez, Shannon Sharpe and.... There just was not a place in the game for the athletic 'tweeners that are so dominant now. Offenses have changed so much, even from when I first started watching football back in the late nineties.
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29 rec., 355 yds, 6 TDs, 6 games.

My season projection, ( barring injury), 60+ catches, 1000+ yards, 10+ TDs.

Seriously.....FIYA!!

Some folks around here, especially you SF fans who insultingly called VD 'stone hands', need to put some hot sauce on that crow pie!!

VD is beasting the way he should have a couple years ago if Martz had ever targeted him in the passing game.

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I'll gladly eat the crow, but what the **** did you expect us to say? He DID have stone hands the past 3 years. He DID drop passes constantly and they COULDN'T target him as much because he was a drop machine. It's awesome that he's improved his hands. He's now a weapon that we CAN use. He's EARNED it.
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I haven't seen much of VD in SF except game highlights, but IMO he had superb hands at UMD, and I don't think he suddenly forgot how to catch a football playing for the 49ers.

Martz as a rule doesn't use the TE much in in his schemes except as dumpoffs or 4th options. I don't think he ever had a clue how to utilize a player with Davis' skillset at the TE position.

Calling a player 'stone hands' for a few drops when he rarely saw the ball thrown his way period is excessive.

Braylon Edwards I'd bet has just as many drops if not more than Vernon Davis, but that doesn't mean you stop throwing him the ball.

It's easy to lose focus when you know before kickoff you aren't really being factored into the passing game except to block.

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I'm going to have to say yes right now. Gonzalez, Witten, K2, Cooley all have more recognition, but no TE is playing better than Vernon Davis right now. This is the Vernon Davis' I expected when he came out of Maryland and right now the only TE I would take over him is Gates.
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I haven't seen much of VD in SF except game highlights, but IMO he had superb hands at UMD, and I don't think he suddenly forgot how to catch a football playing for the 49ers.

Martz as a rule doesn't use the TE much in in his schemes except as dumpoffs or 4th options. I don't think he ever had a clue how to utilize a player with Davis' skillset at the TE position.
Well, if you've only seen highlights, then no wonder. His drops won't show up on those. But whatever. I'm not going to argue about it. I've watched every game he's played. He's consistently caught the ball this year. This is a stark contrast to years past. I'm stoked. He's progressing. But please, don't try and say he didn't have bad hands in the past. That's just foolish.

And I'll agree that Martz isn't great at utilizing the tight end. He did try but VD kept letting him down. And Martz was too much of a prick to stay with it. Instead, he utilized VD as a blocker to make better use of Gore. It was lame.
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