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Old 05-26-2009, 03:46 PM    (permalink
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I think these rankings include some projections on potential and playing time opportunity.
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Scouts also must consider things that can't be measured: Leadership, the quarterback's role within a system and performance under pressure.
#10 Tony Romo. Good one Sporting News.

#11 Matt Hasselbeck
#14 Aaron Rodgers
Call me a homer but I think from here on out, Rodgers is a better quarterback.

Give me Steve Smith (10) over Greg Jennings (9) and Calvin (11) over both of them.
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Oh yeah because the Browns and Braylon Edwards really tore it up last year.
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seriously though no lofa..................seriously???
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Brandon Marshall at 17??

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

DJ Williams not listed, nor is Thomas Howard. Both should be top 20 OLB. Glad to see Clady gettin some rep. Brandon Pettigrew over Daniel Graham? Really? Ryan Harris and Chris Kuper both should have got mentions.

EDIT: Karlos Dansby over John Beason, Ray Lewis and Demeco Ryans? hmmmm
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Considering who is behind Parys Haralson on that list.. 17 isn't that much of a stretch. However I'm sure there are better people who they left off the list who are better than the last 4.
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"8. Keith Bulluck, Titans. He's a fantastic run defender"

lol wat? Keith is great, but he's not a fanastic run defender. What an odd thing to say.
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He was quite possibly the most prolific running back, based on adjustments for how many touches he had DeAngelo did more than most of the league with less than the guys who were producing around him.

To have him at 14 is a pretty big insult.
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Justin Smith certainly belongs on the DE list.

He is everything you could want in a 3-4 DE.
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I love Lee Evans, he is my favorite player on the team, but what is he doing at 8? These guys are really expecting Owens to open him up and be huge himself with both in the top 10.

All of this being done without a QB or offensive lineman showing up in the top 20 at their respective positions.
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"8. Keith Bulluck, Titans. He's a fantastic run defender"

lol wat? Keith is great, but he's not a fanastic run defender. What an odd thing to say.
That stumped me too. They have it backwards - he's a fantastic coverage LB. But truth be told, he hasn't been in run-defense a lot due to the DL in front of him, and WLB Thornton and SS Hope around him.

Even more troubling - C Kevin Mawae and FB Ahmard Hall getting skunked. :(

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

DJ Williams not listed, nor is Thomas Howard. Both should be top 20 OLB. Glad to see Clady gettin some rep. Brandon Pettigrew over Daniel Graham? Really? Ryan Harris and Chris Kuper both should have got mentions.

EDIT: Karlos Dansby over John Beason, Ray Lewis and Demeco Ryans? hmmmm
DJ Williams is an ILB now though, Mr. Broncos Fan! ;)

And 4-3 OLB's typically don't get love because 3-4 OLB's are pass-rushers. Gotta be a long-time stalwart like Briggs and Bulluck to get the recognition.

I thought Dansby's ranking was valid, but everyone has their preferrences. The top guys in Willis, Urlacher, Dansby, Beason, and Lewis are kind bunched together, and each does something well that others may not. Leadership of Ray, athleticism of Willis and Beason, versatility of Dansby, and range of Urlacher.

Longon Fletcher at 14, on the other hand, is terrible.
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Call me a homer but Lofa not in the top 20 at all? I mean I think he's a top 5 personally.
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Call me a homer but Lofa not in the top 20 at all? I mean I think he's a top 5 personally.
nah, Lofa should be up theree
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The RB list was attrocious, seriously, it was the worst piece of crap I had ever read in my life...I almost posted it here a few days ago, but I didn't even want to bother, there was so much wrong with that list it's not even funny.
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this is about how good they are right? however the anaylsis says nothing about their strengths and weaknesses and only talks about the obvious. If you guys are scouts, do some scouting!

and darren mcfadden is SOOOOOOO high. This guy as a RB is gonna be a bust. He has absolutely no power and always goes down on the 1st guy.
Say what you will about his football skills but don't insult the man because of his high sex drive.
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#10 Tony Romo. Good one Sporting News.

#11 Matt Hasselbeck
#14 Aaron Rodgers
Call me a homer but I think from here on out, Rodgers is a better quarterback.

Give me Steve Smith (10) over Greg Jennings (9) and Calvin (11) over both of them.
You guys need to stop getting bent out of shape over where Rodgers is ranked or perceived, when he does it at least two years in a row he'll start to get some respect, but nobody is going to catapult him up to top 5 or consider him elite until he has at least a few good seasons.


Romo has had more then a few very good statistical seasons, and while he lost the playoff games he started lets not act like he just bombed those games...He played well enough to win in the Seattle game and the NY game, I know it's fun to pin all the blame on Romo but having him ranked at 10 is hardly anything terrible.
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I hate the Sporting News. Remember their mock draft I posted? They know less about football than STARHEATHER.
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There are too many pathetic ones, so I'll only mention the ones that offended me as a homer.

A: Joe Thomas at number four is ridiculous. He should be number one.

B: Shaun Rogers at 6? Are you serious? No one outside of Albert Haynesworth was more dominant last year.

That's about it. Not a whole lot to get upset about as a Browns fan.
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There are too many pathetic ones, so I'll only mention the ones that offended me as a homer.

A: Joe Thomas at number four is ridiculous. He should be number one.

B: Shaun Rogers at 6? Are you serious? No one outside of Albert Haynesworth was more dominant last year.
I wonder if he's a Browns...

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Oh my God guys... I can read minds!!!

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You guys need to stop getting bent out of shape over where Rodgers is ranked or perceived, when he does it at least two years in a row he'll start to get some respect, but nobody is going to catapult him up to top 5 or consider him elite until he has at least a few good seasons.


Romo has had more then a few very good statistical seasons, and while he lost the playoff games he started lets not act like he just bombed those games...He played well enough to win in the Seattle game and the NY game, I know it's fun to pin all the blame on Romo but having him ranked at 10 is hardly anything terrible.
That's why I said call me a homer. I think Rodgers is more skilled than Hasselbeck and is surrounded by a better team therefore he should be ranked higher than him. Might just be my opinion?

I wasn't knocking Romo for being so high by any means but the way Sporting News set that ranking up was pretty ironic. Tony Romo is immensely talented, don't get me wrong but he still has a lot to prove and that says worlds about his potential.
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That stumped me too. They have it backwards - he's a fantastic coverage LB. But truth be told, he hasn't been in run-defense a lot due to the DL in front of him, and WLB Thornton and SS Hope around him.

Even more troubling - C Kevin Mawae and FB Ahmard Hall getting skunked. :(



DJ Williams is an ILB now though, Mr. Broncos Fan! ;)

And 4-3 OLB's typically don't get love because 3-4 OLB's are pass-rushers. Gotta be a long-time stalwart like Briggs and Bulluck to get the recognition.

I thought Dansby's ranking was valid, but everyone has their preferrences. The top guys in Willis, Urlacher, Dansby, Beason, and Lewis are kind bunched together, and each does something well that others may not. Leadership of Ray, athleticism of Willis and Beason, versatility of Dansby, and range of Urlacher.

Longon Fletcher at 14, on the other hand, is terrible.
gah...stupid 3-4 switch. He should still be top 20! Because he is awesome. Yeah I guess I get what you are saying about the top backers. I personally really like Beason.

All that still doesn't pardon the general stupidity of some of these lists lol
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You guys need to stop getting bent out of shape over where Rodgers is ranked or perceived, when he does it at least two years in a row he'll start to get some respect, but nobody is going to catapult him up to top 5 or consider him elite until he has at least a few good seasons.


Romo has had more then a few very good statistical seasons, and while he lost the playoff games he started lets not act like he just bombed those games...He played well enough to win in the Seattle game and the NY game, I know it's fun to pin all the blame on Romo but having him ranked at 10 is hardly anything terrible.
Not to bag on romo, since I do like the guy, but he did a lot to lose that giants game. Our DL just beat the fight out of him by that fourth quarter, he was missing horrendously on a lot of those throws to pretty open receivers.
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