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Old 06-11-2009, 08:55 AM    (permalink
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Ricky Rubio is really growing on me. Dude is nice! Imagine pairing him up with a guy like Stoudemire or Bosh? That would give us options instead of relying on Lebron coming to town and saving the day.

I wouldn't mind moving up to get him anymore. He's nice.
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I really hope Galo proves to be a gamer, but I just don't see it. He's skinny, he's finesse, he's just not what I look for in an NBA power forward.

I like how D'Antoni's offense opens up the floor, but his brand of basketball is just the opposite of what I personally believe in.

I believe in hard nosed defense, and a half court offense. Like the old school Pistons, 90s Knicks type of philosophy. D'Antoni is the opposite of that, its running like hell, kicking it out, stretching a defense and hitting jumpshots, and getting back occasionally on defense.

The inside defense is weakened with a smaller lineup, and it has relegated "defensive specialists" who try to compensate for the overall lack of defense from the team. I don't like it.
Gallo's 20 and just hit a pro workout regime last summer, give him time and he'll bulk up like hedo and dirk before him. And while he's not a traditional PF he's not going to be playing the role of a traditional PF. He's going to be a point forward who can score 20 on good percentages with great efficiency.

I too grew up loving the 90s knicks and our thugs like oak, but D'Antoni's teams in phoenix where annually amongst the top ten defensive teams (pace adjusted) so while you're completely right that the the system often leaves the paint a less protected since you don't have two big strong guys to swat everything that comes their way he emphasize D a lot and is a good defensive coach.

My biggest issue is that there are so many myths about mike d and his "system" when all his system really is is getting his players to play unselfishly and make quick smart decisions. He's runs teams much like the up tempo knicks of the 70s than a guy like don nelson who's all about get down the court quick and takes some dude one on one.
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As for ricky he's the only real potential franchise talent in this draft, IMO. Griffin's clearly the number one pick but I can't see him ever carrying his team to success whereas ricky's ability to make his team-mates offensively and great perimeter D could lead a team. I'm firmly on the kids band wagon. The best way of describing how he plays that I've ever heard was that he's playing chess with the ball, making moves to set up his next moves, anticipating what his opponents will do and where his team-mates will go to create easy baskets. It's so appealing to me and he's a kid who'll make me a part time fan of whatever team he gets drafted by.
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Everyone hear that one guy, I'm forgetting his name at the moment, the 19 year old who went to Europe for a year instead of college, talking smack about Rubio?

He supposedly shut Rubio down the time they met. Also questioned his athleticism. Thoughts?

I still love me some Rubio. But I need to see more on him before I officially certify him, I haven't seen enough, and getting your hands on his games is tough.
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As for ricky he's the only real potential franchise talent in this draft, IMO. Griffin's clearly the number one pick but I can't see him ever carrying his team to success whereas ricky's ability to make his team-mates offensively and great perimeter D could lead a team. I'm firmly on the kids band wagon. The best way of describing how he plays that I've ever heard was that he's playing chess with the ball, making moves to set up his next moves, anticipating what his opponents will do and where his team-mates will go to create easy baskets. It's so appealing to me and he's a kid who'll make me a part time fan of whatever team he gets drafted by.
From what ive seen so far, I agree. I feel that Ricky should be the #1 overall pick.

I'm still a huge Ty Lawson fan. I rather have him than Stephen Curry to be honest. I just don't know if Curry's game can translate to the NBA. He'd be a weak point, he's an amazing scorer, but he's too small to play SG. And he's not a passer, so I question him at point.

We need a true point guard. And I really hope the Nash to Knicks rumors aren't true.
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Everyone hear that one guy, I'm forgetting his name at the moment, the 19 year old who went to Europe for a year instead of college, talking smack about Rubio?

He supposedly shut Rubio down the time they met. Also questioned his athleticism. Thoughts?

I still love me some Rubio. But I need to see more on him before I officially certify him, I haven't seen enough, and getting your hands on his games is tough.
Thats Brandon Jennings who I actually prefer over Rubio.
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Thats Brandon Jennings who I actually prefer over Rubio.
any particular reasons why?

i haven't seen any of his games.
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any particular reasons why?

i haven't seen any of his games.
Ya there a lot of reasons why I prefer Jennings Over Rubio. Brandon Jennings is faster then Rubio I question how Rubio's game will translate considering his game seemed slow to me in the European style which is slower then the NBA game. I think Jennings handle is better and his ability to create shots for others with his speed and floor vision will translate better to the NBA better then Rubio's game will. Also think Jennings is a much better defender then Rubio
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Jordan Hill is the guy.

Thoughts?


I don't mind the pick. We could use a big man who can block shots and rebound. Pair him up with a Stoudemire/Bosh in the front court and we'll be ok. He's more of a role player than a star. But I'm ok with that. The Knicks need talent in every position, so I'm not upset with it.


He's basically our version of Brook Lopez. I was upset we didn't grab Lopez last year, we get our own version a year later.


But we still DESPERATELY need a point. I doubt Ty Lawson falls to us.
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As far as our next pick, last I heard is that we are very interested in Jack McClinton from Miami.
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Can't we trade our pick + David Lee for a mid 1st? that way we can nab Ty Lawson.
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Jordan Hill is the guy.

Thoughts?


I don't mind the pick. We could use a big man who can block shots and rebound. Pair him up with a Stoudemire/Bosh in the front court and we'll be ok. He's more of a role player than a star. But I'm ok with that. The Knicks need talent in every position, so I'm not upset with it.


He's basically our version of Brook Lopez. I was upset we didn't grab Lopez last year, we get our own version a year later.


But we still DESPERATELY need a point. I doubt Ty Lawson falls to us.
Jrue Holiday is still on the board so is Eric Maynor, Jeff Teague, Patty Mills, Toney Douglas, and Jack Mcclinton so I am pretty sure the Knicks will come away with either 1 of those guys or as you mentioned lawson.
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Can't we trade our pick + David Lee for a mid 1st? that way we can nab Ty Lawson.
you cant trade david lee or nate until july 1st cause they are rfa.
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I became a big fan of Toney Douglas during the ACC Tournament so I would be happy with him. I agree with bigbluedefense about Ty Lawson. He is the next Jameer Nelson. I also love McClinton because he is a sharpshooter.
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whats the chances that 11 more teams pass on Ty Lawson?


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whats the chances that 11 more teams pass on Ty Lawson?


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its possible of course the t wolves are on the clock right now and again at #28 so you dont know they may draft all pg's
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There goes the steal of the draft.

Although he'll rot behind Billups for onw.
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Come on Donnie!

Get Rubio!

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