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Old 07-21-2009, 01:05 AM    (permalink
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No.

I call things as I see them.

I'm claiming BS because there is absolutely nothing here. If there was a criminal investigation, a witness/friend claiming this occurred, etc.

There is nothing to even remotely claim he's guilty here. If there was even the slightest amount of evidence I'd reserve my judgement until after a criminal investigation, but since there wasn't one, and the girl is claiming this a year later, and suing everyone who said nothing happened, it's a bit suspicious if not outright hilarious.

In your hypothetical situation there's a goldmine of evidence against him.

In this case there's nothing except a girl claiming she was raped and is filing a civil case for cash.

In which case, I'd love Ben to turnaround and sue her for defamation of Character.
My point isn't this case in particular. My point is that you would excuse any action done by a Steeler, no matter what.


*For the record I think Ben come off as a good guy and he probably didn't do this.
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Old 07-21-2009, 07:32 AM    (permalink
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My point isn't this case in particular. My point is that you would excuse any action done by a Steeler, no matter what.


*For the record I think Ben come off as a good guy and he probably didn't do this.
I wouldn't excuse any action done by a Steeler.

You even agreed that there is literally no merit to anything in this case.

To me, seems like your looking for a reason to call me a homer, irregardless of the fact that you completely agree.

False Accusations of Rape should carry the death penalty.
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I wouldn't excuse any action done by a Steeler.

You even agreed that there is literally no merit to anything in this case.

To me, seems like your looking for a reason to call me a homer, irregardless of the fact that you completely agree.

False Accusations of Rape should carry the death penalty
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If by pulling a Kobe you mean winning 4 rings, yes I can see that occurring.
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we're on the second page and still no pictures of the girl?
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Big Ben always seems to make the escape from the pressure to make a play.
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I wouldn't excuse any action done by a Steeler.

You even agreed that there is literally no merit to anything in this case.

To me, seems like your looking for a reason to call me a homer, irregardless of the fact that you completely agree.

False Accusations of Rape should carry the death penalty.
While I won't go as far as to say death penalty... I really think they should increase false police report punishments. They do cause a ton of damage to people's reputations and cause heartache to people and their families.
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oh please. as if canadians even know what beer is.
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While I won't go as far as to say death penalty... I really think they should increase false police report punishments. They do cause a ton of damage to people's reputations and cause heartache to people and their families.
Not to mention waste a ton of taxpayer money.
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This story reminds me of another story.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/8648108

Wouldn't it be hilarious if it was the same guy?

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oh please. as if canadians even know what beer is.
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The thing about it is even if hes cleared, there will still be those people that have it in there heads that he got off because he is a star athlete.
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Not to mention waste a ton of taxpayer money.
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rape is a serious accusation. and a serious crime.
rape punishment should be immediate castration.

i think that punishment alone would stop many would be rapists.
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rape is a serious accusation. and a serious crime.
rape punishment should be immediate castration.

i think that punishment alone would stop many would be rapists.
Rape isn't about sex rape is about control. Still castration would be a fitting punishment. Stupid 8th amendment. But what about female rapists?
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Well the case was dropped by prosecutors, and Bryant settled out of court with the lawsuit that was filed against him.

I guess he was "innocent" since he wasn't found to be guilty.
In Kobe's case it was consensual, then he wanted anal and that's when she refused and called it rape.
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Rape isn't about sex rape is about control. Still castration would be a fitting punishment. Stupid 8th amendment. But what about female rapists?
sew it shut?
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I said I doubt Big ben raped a girl, I have no idea what actually happened or if there is merit to the case. Only Ben really knows that.

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I don't need a reason to call youa homer.
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I think that it is so morally wrong for some to lie for the sole purpose to hurt someone else and create a situation that is favorable for themselves. This should be considered serious crime. It cost the innocent tons of money to defend themselves against something that never happened. Worse, the defendants reputation gets damaged.
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Yes but aslong as theres greed in this world and trashy people that just dont care and want there 15 minutes of fame it will go on.
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While the evidence against Ben is really weak, I can't simply discard the possibility of this being true.

Sure, Ben seems to be a good-natured guy and a mature leader, and this accusation doesn't fit at all with his personality and things he does. But still, there's always the chance itīs true.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to see Ben innocent and whatnot, and hopefully he'll be.

When seeing the evidence, here's what I think happened:
  • Woman met Ben at some point July 2008.
  • Time passed and she needed money.
  • She remembered she met Ben.
  • She decided to take advantage of the huge media coverage he got for winning the Superbowl, because many people would hear about this and his image could be tarnished if he doesn't comply.
  • She also figured out he's the Steeler with the most money, so he'd be the one who'd "miss it the least."
  • She waited until the start of summer camp to make Ben feel pressured into giving her the money quickly, as he'd have court hearings and stuff during training times.
  • She simply wants a settlement to not have to pay THAT much for a lawyer and get a lot of cash quickly.

This is just, however, what I gather from the information from a non-homer point of view, and is simply my take on the situation. Things could be modified though.

From a homer point of view, this is what happened:

Baltimore Raven fan got angry and wants to hurt the Steelers chances of repeating, as well as giving Flacco the chance to become the best QB in the AFC North once Ben is gone, even though Flacco doesn't have the support of the best defense in the NFL and has never EVER won a SINGLE Superbowl.

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From a homer point of view, this is what happened:

Baltimore Raven fan got angry and wants to hurt the Steelers chances of repeating, as well as giving Flacco the chance to become the best QB in the AFC North once Ben is gone, even though Flacco doesn't have the support of the best defense in the NFL and has never EVER won a SINGLE Superbowl.

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Nuh uh...I did not put her up to it I swear....
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I love everyone overreacting and freaking out. I'm a Browns fan and I doubt he'll get in trouble or accused of this. Does Big Ben seem like the sort of guy to rape a girl? Also, how many times do women accuse athletes of raping them because they're after their money?

Wait and see approach here for me.
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Rape isn't about sex rape is about control. Still castration would be a fitting punishment. Stupid 8th amendment. But what about female rapists?
Slow, painful death?
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I think they should be forced to have sex with DG every day for six years.
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