Big Ben pulling a Kobe?

[Addict]

Originally Posted by iowatreat54

Sorry pedobear, she's too old. :(

yeah I know.

I wasn't looking for that one actually. This is the one I wanted. What big ben did... well...

[Brothgar]

Originally Posted by Mr. Stiller

So after being raped, she doesn't say anything for a year... Continues to work with a bunch of people that "have it out for her?"

Well she makes a few claims here
either
1. Head of security didn't make didn't preform a full investigation and/or destroyed evidence.

or

2. Head of security told head chief guy what happened and he suppressed the evidence.

She didn't even really work for most of that year. She spent most of her time on psychiatric leave going to two different hospitals and a mental health retreat.

____________

She claims to have not reported it due to fear of reprisal from Ben's "friend" the owner of the hotel casino. Which makes her lose those medical benefits that she so desperately needed (according to the trial paperwork.)

Originally Posted by Mr. Stiller

Be interesting to see a detailed list of what it took to rack up 380k in Medical bills over 365 days.

...Seriously?

As I said earlier two months hospital care + 1 month psychiatric retreat + a **** load of antidepressants + PTSD treatment.

But she isn't only getting the 380k+ she is also suing for eight different instances of mental anguish at a whooping 10K a piece.

Her explanation for a lack of evidence as I read it is that the head of security either personally or working through his subordinates destroyed or tampered with the evidence as well as tampering with her work computer deleting and rearranging files.

[ricowboy]

Originally Posted by steelernation77

We'll see if any proof of this actually surfaces. Bettis was accused of rape at one point as well and it turned out it was just some person looking for a quick buck. Unfortunately Ben is probably already tried and convicted by the majority of hating NFL fans.

Ben has not been convicted by the fans.......Actually Espn has not even covered it yet.....I have been watching for it. If this had been anyone other than a hand full of players (mannings, brady, that crew) this would be all over espn and you are right he would be convicted by the media and fans.......We need to let this one play out.......Personally, from what I have seen and have read about Ben.....I say no. Allegations agianst Harrah's covering up crimes......I believe in that.....Let us be patient before we judge.

[holt_bruce81]

He's a Winner.

And Winners don't listen to words like "No" or "Don't" or "Stop!"

Those words are jut not in his vocabulary.

[Borat]

Originally Posted by holt_bruce81

He's a Winner.

And Winners don't listen to words like "No" or "Don't" or "Stop!"

Those words are jut not in his vocabulary.

Haha. Case closed.

[CJSchneider]

A few things that stick out -

1. Are individual rooms set up with cameras? I wouldn't think so.
2. I have family who work in the hotel business. If someone leaves there station/ or the front desk to do something, even as simple as laundry, they log it down. There should be an entire log of her daily activities.
3. There may be cameras in the hall, but lack of video at specified times may be bad news as well.
4 Why does the date in the top left corner of this document http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/woio/pdf/bigben.pdf
say 2001?

[Mr. Goosemahn]

Originally Posted by CJSchneider

4 Why does the date in the top left corner of this document http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/woio/pdf/bigben.pdf
say 2001?

Wow, hadn't seen that. It might be a weird nine, but it definitely does look like a 1 there. Another thing to note (and this was said by my cousin, who studied law) is that he is simply addressed as "Ben." He said it was definitely a minor issue, but also said that full names should always be used in legal files, and that his real name, Benjamin Todd Roethlisberger, should be used.

Just an interesting point.

He also said that the original accusation has little evidence, and that her story, albeit somewhat believable, does have some strong flaws.

To start off, he said that lawyers would instantly like to know what she was doing fixing the TV.

For those who don't know what supposedly happened, she claims that Roethlisberger (or someone) told her that his TV wasn't working and she went there to fix it. When she entered the room, the deed happened, and he asked if there were cameras, and she replied yes. He then told her to tell everyone that she simply fixed his television. Upon telling the head of security of the events, he said that she should be considered lucky as many women would like to sleep with him, and he supposedly went off to erase any evidence of the act.

So, going back to what my cousin had to say. He said that the first flaw of her story was the fact that she was the person sent to fix the TV. She said that she couldn't find a technician, and since she was told the celebrities had to be kept happy, she herself decided to go up and fix it. According to him, this rarely happens. She was a receptionist and also worked as a concierge or something like that for the golf tournament that was going on. Never has my cousin (or I for that matter) heard of a receptionist to come to a hotel room to fix the TV, even if they are the people who receive the call from the client.

The second fishy bit of information is her claim that everyone at the hotel turned against her and deleted all of the evidence of the rape. My cousin said that the hotel could get in a huge amount of legal trouble if this were found out to be true, as it could be eventually considered to be tampering of evidence or something, and that any head of security with a bit of common sense would not have erased the file entirely from their archives, which is what she claims happened.

A third flaw in her story is her claim that during her hospitalization, the head of security of the hotel, Guy Hyder, befriended her parents. They then gave him a key to the victim's house, which was then used to go into her house, use her computer, and delete "valuable evidence" gathered by her to use against Roethlisberger. My cousin said that, as a parent, you wouldn't go around giving random people (or even new friends for that matter) a key to your daughter's house days after she was raped. What's more, the fact that they supposedly went in and deleted her files also sounds extremely doubtful. The fact that a hotel is going through all this trouble to cover up an incident would only happen if it meant great, great, trouble for the hotel. Once again, the woman is claiming that the hotel performed illicit activities. What's more, that fact that she says that the head of security himself went into the house is also unbelievable. If the hotel, for some reason, did actually go into her home and raid her computer, they would not send the mastermind of the hotel's security to do the job. It would instead be someone much less important to them, in case something goes amiss.

There were also other things that my cousin pointed out, but I can't remember all of them.

Here's an article he read that mentions most of the stuff written here:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_yl...v=ap&type=lgns

He also mentioned the obvious weird facts such as taking a year to sue and the fact that there was no criminal investigation ever of the issue.

[Mr. Goosemahn]

Just found this weird bit of information. Don't know it it was already posted.

"Sources connected with the case say that a former co-worker of McNulty's at Harrah's came forward with the story that around the time McNulty hooked up with Roethlisberger, she was allegedly involved with a married man.

One who never existed.

The man's wife created an email account, posing as a U.S. soldier in Iraq. The wife began corresponding with Andrea McNulty to gain information.

Her co-worker McNulty fell in love with this fictitious soldier and began telling people they were engaged. When the correspondence stopped, Andrea McNulty then began telling people the soldier was killed in action.

According to TMZ, McNulty told at least one co-worker she began seeing a psychiatrist because of the phantom soldier and not because of Ben."

http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/20...etails-emerge/

[Mr. Stiller]

Originally Posted by broth223

Well she makes a few claims here
either
1. Head of security didn't make didn't preform a full investigation and/or destroyed evidence.

or

2. Head of security told head chief guy what happened and he suppressed the evidence.

She didn't even really work for most of that year. She spent most of her time on psychiatric leave going to two different hospitals and a mental health retreat.

____________

She claims to have not reported it due to fear of reprisal from Ben's "friend" the owner of the hotel casino. Which makes her lose those medical benefits that she so desperately needed (according to the trial paperwork.)



As I said earlier two months hospital care + 1 month psychiatric retreat + a **** load of antidepressants + PTSD treatment.

But she isn't only getting the 380k+ she is also suing for eight different instances of mental anguish at a whooping 10K a piece.

Her explanation for a lack of evidence as I read it is that the head of security either personally or working through his subordinates destroyed or tampered with the evidence as well as tampering with her work computer deleting and rearranging files.

Exactly.

They continued to conspire against her, destroy evidence, do things that sent her to psychiatric wards... and she kept returning for more?

[Bengalsrocket]

Originally Posted by Mr. Stiller

Exactly.

They continued to conspire against her, destroy evidence, do things that sent her to psychiatric wards... and she kept returning for more?

She's in and out of psychiatric wards and you're going to try and use logic as a defense for why she wouldn't do something?

Anyways, Ben doesn't seem like he's this terrible.

[Mr. Goosemahn]

Originally Posted by Bengalsrocket

She's in and out of psychiatric wards and you're going to try and use logic as a defense for why she wouldn't do something?

Anyways, Ben doesn't seem like he's this terrible.

About the psychiatric wards:

"Sources connected with the case say that a former co-worker of McNulty's at Harrah's came forward with the story that around the time McNulty hooked up with Roethlisberger, she was allegedly involved with a married man.

One who never existed.

The man's wife created an email account, posing as a U.S. soldier in Iraq. The wife began corresponding with Andrea McNulty to gain information.

Her co-worker McNulty fell in love with this fictitious soldier and began telling people they were engaged. When the correspondence stopped, Andrea McNulty then began telling people the soldier was killed in action.

According to TMZ, McNulty told at least one co-worker she began seeing a psychiatrist because of the phantom soldier and not because of Ben."

http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/20...etails-emerge/

[NY+Giants=NYG]

Is big ben doing something with BSPN? Why hasn't this been reported on their website or on tv?

[niel89]

Originally Posted by Addict

[keylime_5]

interesting that espn is pretty much ignoring the roethlisberger scandal story. Dan Patrick show called them out on this too I do believe. Goes to show that the network has an agenda and doesn't want to bash certain things/people like USC or Tiger Woods or the SEC in particular, and I guess either Big Ben or the Steelers in general. Another reason Sportscenter and ESPNews and most of that channel is totally unwatchable...all except actual broadcasts of sports.

[/rant]

[BlindSite]

Originally Posted by keylime_5

interesting that espn is pretty much ignoring the roethlisberger scandal story. Dan Patrick show called them out on this too I do believe. Goes to show that the network has an agenda and doesn't want to bash certain things/people like USC or Tiger Woods or the SEC in particular, and I guess either Big Ben or the Steelers in general. Another reason Sportscenter and ESPNews and most of that channel is totally unwatchable...all except actual broadcasts of sports.

[/rant]

Not wanting to alienate the Steelers fanbase as massive as it's expanded to after their superbowl win is a pretty standard agenda.

[NY+Giants=NYG]

Originally Posted by BlindSite

Not wanting to alienate the Steelers fanbase as massive as it's expanded to after their superbowl win is a pretty standard agenda.

I think it's more then that.. I wont doubt if Ben is doing a show or something for ESPN, and this would hurt it before the show even starts. That, or they just selectively chose who to write about and who to sweep it under the rug so to speak.

[ChezPower4]

I hate to say it but ESPN does make a big deal about the black players that get into trouble and they kinda tend to put the white guys on the back burner or play off what they did as "not that big of a deal". I really can't take a ESPN seriously one bit and I think that they clearly have an agenda when it comes to the race of the players.

[Mr. Stiller]

Originally Posted by Shockey+Manning=Shocking

I think it's more then that.. I wont doubt if Ben is doing a show or something for ESPN, and this would hurt it before the show even starts. That, or they just selectively chose who to write about and who to sweep it under the rug so to speak.

It may have something to do with Roethlisberger doing a show for Disney, ESPN's parent company.

Or it may happen to be the fact that there is absolutely no credible evidence in this case (Whereas Harrison's case, there was the gun... Moss there was the victim and a "Witness" etc. Roeths case is just some nutzo girl going off.)

It has nothing to do with the fact that Ben's white.

[Nalej]

I don't know if Ben is guilty or not but for the record- Not many rape victims report the incident immediately. It usually takes some time for them to come out. It may take someone close to convince them to report it, the shock to wear out a lil bit or something else.

I do think it's weird that this hasn't been on ESPN yet though. ESPN puts EVERYTHING out there. Evidence or not.

Edit: Just saw it reported on ESPN

[Mr. Stiller]

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/23/sp...r=1&ref=sports
“Damage to his reputation is not our only criteria, but it’s the driving force in making this decision,” Vince Doria, the network’s senior vice president and director of news, said Wednesday afternoon while defending the decision not to report the story. He said the network was historically very cautious when “people have filed civil lawsuits alleging sexual misconduct, which is among the most serious and damaging charges you can make.”

ESPN did not report the civil lawsuit filed in 2005 by a woman who accused Michael Vick of infecting her with herpes through unprotected sex. The lawsuit was reportedly settled.

“There were no criminal charges,” Doria said, “and Vick had no history of that behavior.” Similarly, he added, “There has been no criminal complaint against Ben Roethlisberger and he has no track record of the behavior.”

But ESPN reported last month on the intent of a woman to file a civil lawsuit against Los Angeles Lakers guard Shannon Brown on sex-related charges; Doria said it was reported because it occurred during the playoffs and could affect the player and the team.

ESPN also reported on sexual assault accusations against Kobe Bryant, but they emanated from a criminal complaint and a police investigation.

[yourfavestoner]

Colin Cowherd just explained on the radio this morning that the reason why it hasn't gotten that much press from E!SPN is because it's a civil case. If there had been any criminal charges filed whatsoever, they'd have been all over it.

[NY+Giants=NYG]

Originally Posted by yourfavestoner

Colin Cowherd just explained on the radio this morning that the reason why it hasn't gotten that much press from E!SPN is because it's a civil case. If there had been any criminal charges filed whatsoever, they'd have been all over it.

I think that's BS.. It's still sports news worthy when a 2 time superbowl champion QB, for a team that is very prestigous, and for a guy who just won, is in the news for something like that. They should have something on it.

[princefielder28]

I tend to agree with Cowherd but there is a current Dick's Sporting Goods ad with Big Ben in it and Dick's does sponsor some ESPN stuff so that may be a reason why it's not drawing the attention.

[SuperKevin]

I saw it on Sportscenter today. They took about 12 seconds to explain that this chick is probably full of ****

[trkaline]

Ben better pay up, or he will have to deal with her brother.