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Old 07-24-2009, 10:27 AM    (permalink
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Well if you really ask me to (i wasnt planning on cuz it will be a fruitless discussion anyway).
-Rudolph is insanely quick for someone his size and stretches the field out more than given credit for
-Rudolph ended the season as a quite good blocker (although i do concede that he sucked in blocking early on in last season but the strides he took were rediculous, his downfield blocking is really good, he is not quite as good blocking on the the line)
-He had the surest hands on the team outside of floyd.
Wonderful. As I pointed out yesterday, there are 10 tight ends that I can name off the top of my head that are better than Rudolph, and probably another 5-10 that you could make a case for.
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Wonderful. As I pointed out yesterday, there are 10 tight ends that I can name off the top of my head that are better than Rudolph, and probably another 5-10 that you could make a case for.
you mean who you think are better, not saying that i dont agree with some of your list but i disagree, although i also think a few of the guys who named are better there were some names on there that i thought were not even close to being enough better to not have an argument about it
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Well if you really ask me to (i wasnt planning on cuz it will be a fruitless discussion anyway).
-Rudolph is insanely quick for someone his size and stretches the field out more than given credit for
-Rudolph ended the season as a quite good blocker (although i do concede that he sucked in blocking early on in last season but the strides he took were rediculous, his downfield blocking is really good, he is not quite as good blocking on the the line)
-He had the surest hands on the team outside of floyd.
So, in your opinion, does that warrant him being selected to this roster over Gronkowski and Pitta?
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Old 07-24-2009, 10:33 AM    (permalink
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not saying that i dont agree with some of your list but i disagree
How's that for fallacy?
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I'm not saying he should be in there cuz he shouldnt but he is quite close.
Again, with the overrating of ND prospects. Off the top of my head, here are OTs that are better than Young.

Russell Okung
Anthony Davis
Bryan Bulaga
Trent Williams
Ciron Black
Adam Ulatowski
Charles Brown
Zane Beadles
Gabe Carimi

I'm sure there at least 5-10 other tackles better than Young. So, no, he's not "quite close".
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you mean who you think are better, not saying that i dont agree with some of your list but i disagree, although i also think a few of the guys who named are better there were some names on there that i thought were not even close to being enough better to not have an argument about it
No, as in, they ARE better. They all out-produced Rudolph last year, and I'd say nearly all of them are better blockers.
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Look, this is going nowhere. I like Rudolph. Really, I do. I think he was the best freshman TE last year and showed improvements in his run blocking. However, to say that he's a top 5 or even a top 10 TE at the moment is beyond ludicrous.
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Look, this is going nowhere. I like Rudolph. Really, I do. I think he was the best freshman TE last year and showed improvements in his run blocking. However, to say that he's a top 5 or even a top 10 TE at the moment is beyond ludicrous.
fair enough, i have him top10 atm, but lets agree to disagree, will be much more usefull
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Ciron Black is a monster. He'll prove it you this season when he comes around the way looking for Brandon Spikes
He's got this other guy on Florida to worry about... some defensive lineman named after a golf ball or whatever.

He's alright.
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He's got this other guy on Florida to worry about... some defensive lineman named after a golf ball or whatever.

He's alright.
If he ain't as good a "Putt Putt" Dorsey I don't wanna hear it.
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You only voted for one OT. You can add Bulaga to your ballot if you want but you better do it quick. Okung is almost at 10 votes.
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There are two Pouncey's... Mike and Maurkice are both on the OL.
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