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Old 08-11-2009, 11:31 PM    (permalink
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Ok first off who would want Shiancoe gone? Guy is a beast physically and was just a matter of time for him to produce more on the field. Secondly I do not rip all the players, a lot of guys on here just destroy Cedric Griffin, I think he is good and still do. I follow more than my fair share of college prospects, thus when we get guys that I question, I will question them until I see them produce or play well. Does not take long, and sure players can improve and everything but from what I have seen from guys like Johnson, was more than unimpressed. Then again I would want an elite safety, then again some people are more than happy with average. Guess just like last year, Williams will pick up the slack, just hope he does not get injured.

How is Griffin good? He's good in run support but gets toasted in coverage constantly.
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Seriously, Ozzy, you are about the only person on this forum that makes me want to break things. You argue just for the sake of arguing. And you think you are the only one that's right.

On a football note, the Vikings community has faith in Sullivan. If they didn't, then yes, they would have drafted somebody else. You're not the coach of the Vikings. You're a dumb fan who thinks they can run the Vikings organization. It's a shame that the Vikings posters have to deal with a prick like you.
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Old 08-12-2009, 06:54 AM    (permalink
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Well bubby, it is quite easy to block posters on this site and you will never even see a post of mine. If I piss you off so much, I suggest you use that.

Sorry I am a draft guy, I follow college football prospects into the NFL. Just so happens I am from Minnesota so clearly have interest in the Vikings. A little perspective is not a bad thing.
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Old 08-12-2009, 08:23 PM    (permalink
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I think Sullivan is going to be fine. Adding Loadholt and Sullivan and removing Cook and Birk definitely improves our offensive line, IMO.
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Old 08-12-2009, 08:30 PM    (permalink
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I think Sullivan is going to be fine. Adding Loadholt and Sullivan and removing Cook and Birk definitely improves our offensive line, IMO.
Just for simple clarification, I stated in the training camp thread today why exactly I am not really a supporter of Sullivan and what exactly I do not like about him.


Hope it turns out, but I do have my reasons, even if some think they are wrong.
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I think Sullivan is going to be fine. Adding Loadholt and Sullivan and removing Cook and Birk definitely improves our offensive line, IMO.
I have hopes for Loadholt....but I went into the draft calling for the Vikes to draft Jamon Meredith (who ended up going to the Packers in the 5th round) I guess this way we'll have a good view of how both of them turn out....

I liked Meredith for his knee bend and footwork as well as his strong initial punch, he could be part of the reason the Pack has not shown much interest in resigning Tauscher.
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The funny thing with these questions about Tyrell Johnson and John Sullivan is that I don't think some people fully realize how far their predecessors had fallen. Birk had become virtually immobile and seemed to suffer with more concentration lapses than I had ever previously seen. Sharper on the other hand was just awful. He had lost about 3 steps in coverage, wasn't strong in run support and never really was able to come up with the type of big plays that he's made a staple of in his career. So essentially, as long as Johnson and Sullivan perform at an average level, we'll be more than fine.
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The funny thing with these questions about Tyrell Johnson and John Sullivan is that I don't think some people fully realize how far their predecessors had fallen. Birk had become virtually immobile and seemed to suffer with more concentration lapses than I had ever previously seen. Sharper on the other hand was just awful. He had lost about 3 steps in coverage, wasn't strong in run support and never really was able to come up with the type of big plays that he's made a staple of in his career. So essentially, as long as Johnson and Sullivan perform at an average level, we'll be more than fine.
Exactly. Both of them were getting by on their names.
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Old 08-13-2009, 12:14 AM    (permalink
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I think Birk is still a solid player, but yeah...Sharper was just brutal.
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That we agree on, Sharper last year was flat out horrible, slow to react and was just not productive at all on the field. That we all clearly agree on.
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I think Birk is still a solid player, but yeah...Sharper was just brutal.
I agree with that. Birk was still solid, but I think that Sullivan can step in without losing much. I do think that Johnson will be an improvement over Sharper, but that won't take much.
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