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Dallas Secondary is looking better than ever!!!
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I've noticed one important change in the secondary drills from last year. In Oxnard, the corners and safeties did a lot of sub-group work; the corners would work on backpedaling, cutting and reacting with Dave Campo. The safeties worked on positioning relative to the line of scrimmage, getting proper depth in zone coverage, reading run versus pass.
Not so this year. The secondary drills all integrate both corners and safeties and they work extensively, all of them, on reacting, cutting and meeting the ball at the receiver. It's also clear from the drills that the newbies at safety -- Sensabaugh, Ball and to a lesser extent, Brown -- can all run with their corner cousins. You don't see a dropoff in backpedal agility, cutting or acceleration from the safeties compared to the corners. I would say that Sensabaugh is one of the fastest DBs at accelerating forward out of a cut.
The safeties also have to take their turns in the one-on-one coverage drills against the top receivers. They're all d-backs now. The safeties don't get the luxury of squaring off against tight ends. Today, I saw Sensabaugh take several reps against Williams. Roy beat him (he beat everybody today) but Sensabaught wasn't a pushover. He was always within arms reach of the ball. Dallas would not have tried this were Roy L. Williams still the starter.
The benefits of throwing all the d-backs into the coverage deep end could be seen in the final drill of the day, where the offense started at its own 30 and ran a two minute, no huddle drill (picking up work on the packages that were installed this morning).
Romo had two drives, Kitna had two drives and Stephen McGee had one. All moved from the offenses end to about the defense's 20 or 25 every time. Here, defending a short field, the defense stopped the offense -- every single time. The passing windows shrank. The recovery speed was evident. Looking for a big potential positive for the '09 defense, here it is. All of them, the corners and the safeties, can cover.
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08-08-2009, 12:08 PM
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Earl Bennett is awesome.
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How is he doing?
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08-08-2009, 12:17 PM
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he is supposedly doing great and improved alot after getting through the playbook. I think he is pretty much set as the #2 WR
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08-08-2009, 01:00 PM
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Ricky and Ronnie has been beasting it. Look bigger, stronger and faster then ever. Should be a scary tandem with an improved, more physical Oline.
Ted Ginn is looking like he is gonna have a breakout year. Running good routes, using that speed of his to fly past guys and catching everything his way.
Patrick Turner and Brian Hartline has been pure studs. Making plays everyday. Turner has even made some plays against Will Allen who is our best corner and one of the most underrated cover corners in the NFL. So to all the draft experts who called out the Dolphins on drafting those two..SUCK ON THAT!
JT is JT out there. Putting alot of pressure on the QB and getting sacks.
Channing Crowder is actually making impact plays daily and is everywhere around the ball.
Cam Wake who was the most dominating defensive player in the CFL for the past two years is starting to turn some heads. Applying good pressure and is improving day by day. A physical freak of nature.
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08-08-2009, 01:13 PM
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according to eaglesalltheway, the entire Eagles roster has looked awesome. no one looks bad.
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08-08-2009, 02:08 PM
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Josh Morgan is unstoppable.
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08-08-2009, 02:57 PM
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according to eaglesalltheway, the entire Eagles roster has looked awesome. no one looks bad.
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Not entirely, but since this is the brag thread, I bragged...
I'm not going to come in with training camp stats, lol, and I'm not going to put out negative info in a thread that says "Brag" in the title...
Of course there are some negatives. Our #2 O-line has been getting killed by the #1 D-Line and LBs.
We may not have a #3RB worthy to be on the roster.
Now, with Ingram's injury, our TE depth in almost non-existent.
Mike Patterson Looks too fat...
I honestly could go on and on with things I've seen that I don't like as well, but unless someone puts up a thread about the things in TC that the teams are ******* up on, I'll keep that info to myself, lol.
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08-08-2009, 03:34 PM
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Matt Ryan has been looking good checking down passes to the RB and connecting with Tony Gonzalez (in the mock game today, he threw to Gonzo 3 times straight and Gonzo had 4 catches for 40 yards and a TD). Last year, Ryan completed 22% of his passes to RBs and TEs, when guys like Rivers and Brees had that percentage around 30. With more passes to safety blanket Gonzalez and check downs, expect Ryan's completion percentage to jump to around the 65%-68% area.
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08-08-2009, 04:30 PM
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Issac Bruce said he's having the best off-season of his life. He's taken part in every single off-season program activity, too; including, Singletary's "nutcracker" drill.
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08-08-2009, 05:25 PM
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Gunther Cunningham has installed 40 blitz packages one week into camp. So the Lions defense might still suck, but it's going to suck in entirely new and different ways if so.
Stafford is expected to start by everyone who has been watching him, but Schwartz maintains the decision won't be made until at least preseason week 2 or so. Stafford will get serious time this year though, there's no doubting that. There's preseason hype on guys - and as a Lions fan, I know all about preseason hype - but what Stafford is getting is above and beyond.
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08-08-2009, 06:34 PM
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Gunther Cunningham has installed 40 blitz packages one week into camp. So the Lions defense might still suck, but it's going to suck in entirely new and different ways if so.
Stafford is expected to start by everyone who has been watching him, but Schwartz maintains the decision won't be made until at least preseason week 2 or so. Stafford will get serious time this year though, there's no doubting that. There's preseason hype on guys - and as a Lions fan, I know all about preseason hype - but what Stafford is getting is above and beyond.
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even if he is looking good, I'd still let him ride the pine for a couple weeks. no point in rushing him in, since it isnt like the Lions are going to win 10 games or something.
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08-08-2009, 07:19 PM
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to be fair...Jarrett Bush is not able to stop...any one, from doing anything.
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08-08-2009, 08:38 PM
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Sanchez is starting to pull away victorious in the QB competition.
Gholston is finally showing up.
The entire secondary has been dominant.
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08-08-2009, 09:01 PM
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Every team is going 19-0 this year.
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08-08-2009, 09:14 PM
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even if he is looking good, I'd still let him ride the pine for a couple weeks. no point in rushing him in, since it isnt like the Lions are going to win 10 games or something.
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What's the point of sitting him? They may very well stink again in which case it's far more beneficial for the future of your franchise to give the kid real game experience and allow him to gel with the team rather than throw Culpepper out there for no reason. If you struggle in your first career action and then don't have the mental toughness to learn from that adversity and be better because if it then you probably aren't going to make it in the league anyway.
People always say "well look at Aaron Rodgers" and I am of the belief that Aaron Rodgers (and those who took similar paths of sitting for a year or two) would have been the same player had he gotten roughed up in his rookie year. The bottom line is we'll never know how they would have fared if they were "thrown into the fire" but my feeling is that good players will always get better from adversity.
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08-09-2009, 01:31 AM
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apparently when he rounded the corner of the other end zone a fan yelled, "We love you Shaun!"
Rogers replied in jest, "No h omo."
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08-09-2009, 02:00 AM
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That's awesome.
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08-09-2009, 10:34 AM
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What's the point of sitting him? They may very well stink again in which case it's far more beneficial for the future of your franchise to give the kid real game experience and allow him to gel with the team rather than throw Culpepper out there for no reason. If you struggle in your first career action and then don't have the mental toughness to learn from that adversity and be better because if it then you probably aren't going to make it in the league anyway.
People always say "well look at Aaron Rodgers" and I am of the belief that Aaron Rodgers (and those who took similar paths of sitting for a year or two) would have been the same player had he gotten roughed up in his rookie year. The bottom line is we'll never know how they would have fared if they were "thrown into the fire" but my feeling is that good players will always get better from adversity.
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If their line isn't good (I dont know if it is) then he's going to really struggle and that could ruin his confidence, create poor habits, or get him banged up from too many sacks. Unless he's looking great in preseason games and tearing practice apart, I would be weary about starting him from day one. But that is just my opinion.
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08-09-2009, 10:36 AM
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Rogers replied in jest, "No homo."
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if that's true, I would like to applaud Rogers.
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08-09-2009, 04:15 PM
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WR Mohammed Massaquoi may actually be slightly ahead of WR Brian Robiskie. He's hardly consistent, but he is making plays in camp. This is news only because of the fact that Brian Robiskie was thought to be so NFL ready and is having a fine camp himself. I think this has less to do with Robiskie struggling and more to do with Massaquoi succeeding.
Braylon Edwards has reportedly not dropped a "catchable" ball since he's been at camp. The Browns might have a pretty good WR core this year.
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08-09-2009, 04:29 PM
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Quote:
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Are you the designated "necessary thread" forum policeman?
Dallas Secondary is looking better than ever!!!
From BTB.com
I've noticed one important change in the secondary drills from last year. In Oxnard, the corners and safeties did a lot of sub-group work; the corners would work on backpedaling, cutting and reacting with Dave Campo. The safeties worked on positioning relative to the line of scrimmage, getting proper depth in zone coverage, reading run versus pass.
Not so this year. The secondary drills all integrate both corners and safeties and they work extensively, all of them, on reacting, cutting and meeting the ball at the receiver. It's also clear from the drills that the newbies at safety -- Sensabaugh, Ball and to a lesser extent, Brown -- can all run with their corner cousins. You don't see a dropoff in backpedal agility, cutting or acceleration from the safeties compared to the corners. I would say that Sensabaugh is one of the fastest DBs at accelerating forward out of a cut.
The safeties also have to take their turns in the one-on-one coverage drills against the top receivers. They're all d-backs now. The safeties don't get the luxury of squaring off against tight ends. Today, I saw Sensabaugh take several reps against Williams. Roy beat him (he beat everybody today) but Sensabaught wasn't a pushover. He was always within arms reach of the ball. Dallas would not have tried this were Roy L. Williams still the starter.
The benefits of throwing all the d-backs into the coverage deep end could be seen in the final drill of the day, where the offense started at its own 30 and ran a two minute, no huddle drill (picking up work on the packages that were installed this morning).
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So let's say, if we were ranking the decade's best secondaries... :)
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- Our coach and newly drafted QB are shiny, new, and can do no wrong right now.
- Vernon Gholston is looking good lately.
- Darrelle Revis.
- Kellen Clemens also looks good, but you have to read the non-opinion part of the articles to get that. He can do tons of wrong since he was drafted by the idiot ex-coach and we have a newer, shinier QB.
- Our running game looks beast.
- Dustin Keller is going to be beast.
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jeremy jarmon and brian orakpo and albert haynesworth.
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After two days off, this has been a subdued practice so far at Packers training camp. The first big cheer came during 11-on-11 drills after QB Matt Flynn threw long down the left sideline to WR Jordy Nelson for a TD. Nelson had a step or two on S Aaron Rouse.
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