Burress Expected to Plead Guilty in Weapons Case - Page 2

S T R I N G · 08-20-2009, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Geo

Yeah this is what PFT said:

Six weeks later though and Papa is saying this to the media:

Confirms the aforementioned 3 months right there.

Fabricate this.

So PFT and Bob Papa are now reliable sources? They just heard rumours and repeated them.

No, I think I'll stick with my original thought that the plea-bargain has always been 2 years.

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The guilty plea ends months of haggling between Burress' attorney and the Manhattan district attorney's office. The case went to a grand jury earlier this month after negotiations broke down, apparently because District Attorney Robert Morgenthau was insistent on Burress serving at least two years in prison.

Assistant District Attorney Mark Dwyer said it is standard policy to request a two-year sentence as part of a plea bargain on such serious charges. Sentencing was set for Sept. 22.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4411373

NY+Giants=NYG · 08-20-2009, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Geo

Yeah this is what PFT said:

Six weeks later though and Papa is saying this to the media:

Confirms the aforementioned 3 months right there.

Fabricate this.

That;s it! GOOD FIND! Plus rep for you for saving me the loooong process of digging it up.

Former New York Giants receiver Plaxico Burress turned down plea bargain to three-month sentence for gun possession, says report

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2...burress_2.html

Geo · 08-20-2009, 11:32 AM

No prob, bud.

Plaxico, like Vick, made it worse for himself by getting deeper into the legal situation. Although I doubt Vick's lawyer(s) were able to get as good a plea deal as Burress' did, which Plaxico turned down.

NY+Giants=NYG · 08-20-2009, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Geo

No prob, bud.

Plaxico, like Vick, made it worse for himself by getting deeper into the legal situation. Although I doubt Vick's lawyer(s) were able to get as good a plea deal as Burress' did, which Plaxico turned down.

I found the original blog update or report by Mike Garafolo who is one of our many beat writers.

S T R I N G · 08-20-2009, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Geo

No prob, bud.

Plaxico, like Vick, made it worse for himself by getting deeper into the legal situation. Although I doubt Vick's lawyer(s) were able to get as good a plea deal as Burress' did, which Plaxico turned down.

So you believe PFT and some rumour Bob heard over the DA's own words?

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Negotiations in the gun-possession case against ex-Giants wide receiver Plaxico Burress -- who accidentally shot himself in the leg at a Midtown nightclub last November -- fell apart earlier this year after prosecutors insisted he do two years' state time on a plea to a lesser gun charge, the DA told The Post.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/07272009...lax_181537.htm

S T R I N G · 08-20-2009, 11:40 AM

Or how about Plaxico's lawyer?

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Ben Brafman, attorney for Plaxico Burress, is quoted in the Star-Ledger piece as saying "I told (Morgenthau) if they offered one year, I would discuss with Plax. They never offered it and Plax never authorized it."

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...r_offered.html

NY+Giants=NYG · 08-20-2009, 11:45 AM

Either way if the report is true or false, he is screwed one way or another. That's pretty much the bottom line. Plus when he gets out, he may get suspended, if Roger G. goes that route.

tjsunstein · 08-20-2009, 11:45 AM

Why do they even make a minimum jail sentence if it can just be negotiated down? Stupid. I don't care what plea bargin was or wasn't on the table, if Bloomberg wanted to make an example out of him then make him serve the minimum atleast.

S T R I N G · 08-20-2009, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by tjsunstein

Why do they even make a minimum jail sentence if it can just be negotiated down? Stupid. I don't care what plea bargin was or wasn't on the table, if Bloomberg wanted to make an example out of him then make him serve the minimum atleast.

He plead to a different charge than what he was originally charged with. That's why he could serve less time. He can actually get out in about 20 months I believe.

It is extremely costly and time consuming to go through the whole court process which is why most cases are plea bargained. There isn't enough time/money to prosecute every criminal plus there is no guarantee of a conviction.

tjsunstein · 08-20-2009, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by S T R I N G

He plead to a different charge than what he was originally charged with. That's why he could serve less time. He can actually get out in about 20 months I believe.

It is extremely costly and time consuming to go through the whole court process which is why most cases are plea bargained. There isn't enough time/money to prosecute every criminal plus there is no guarantee of a conviction.

I get that part but Bloomberg made such a strong statement towards this type of crime when Burress was arrested. You would think with someone who talked so much about making a statement out of this case would actually follow through with the whole process. Burress wasn't made into the slightest example here. Just my take, though.

S T R I N G · 08-20-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by tjsunstein

I get that part but Bloomberg made such a strong statement towards this type of crime when Burress was arrested. You would think with someone who talked so much about making a statement out of this case would actually follow through with the whole process. Burress wasn't made into the slightest example here. Just my take, though.

Well Bloomberg is the mayor, not the DA. He technically cannot tell the DAs what to do as far as I know. He was likely just saying what he did to score political points.

It sounds like the DAs did what was standard in cases like this. I see what you're saying, but it wouldn't be fair to make an example out of Burress just because he is a public figure.

Geo · 08-20-2009, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Shockey+Manning=Shocking

Either way if the report is true or false, he is screwed one way or another. That's pretty much the bottom line. Plus when he gets out, he may get suspended, if Roger G. goes that route.

Definitely agreed. Even if he's not suspended, 34 years old when he's out and two years in prison away from the game - this in all likelihood seals his pro career.

Bucs_Rule · 08-20-2009, 12:50 PM

Bloomberg would have responded just as forcefully if he was asked about anyone committing that type of offense. He just happens to only get asked when its a very well-known person.

aNYtitan · 08-20-2009, 12:51 PM

Damn 2 years for it, I like that his lawyer keeps saying that it was a legal firearm he had, yet he will go to jail for 2 years

the decider13 · 08-20-2009, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by aNYtitan

Damn 2 years for it, I like that his lawyer keeps saying that it was a legal firearm he had, yet he will go to jail for 2 years

His permit was expired and NY has a law against any concealed firearm even if it is licensed.

Stash · 08-20-2009, 01:28 PM

Kinda odd that Stallworth kills a guy and gets a few months while Plax shoots his own leg and gets 2 years.

NY+Giants=NYG · 08-20-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Stash

Kinda odd that Stallworth kills a guy and gets a few months while Plax shoots his own leg and gets 2 years.

Can't compare the two things.. Different laws and different state.

S T R I N G · 08-20-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Stash

Kinda odd that Stallworth kills a guy and gets a few months while Plax shoots his own leg and gets 2 years.

The justice system isn't about justice. ;)

CC.SD · 08-20-2009, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Stash

Kinda odd that Stallworth kills a guy and gets a few months while Plax shoots his own leg and gets 2 years.

Definitely my first thought. It's only odd if anything makes sense to begin with.

Hawk · 08-20-2009, 03:00 PM

Vick kills dogs, received 19 months

Burress shoots him self in leg, receives 24 months

Leonard Little kills someone while driving drunk, receives 90 days

Stallworth also kills someone while driving drunk, receives 30 days

ah, the beauty of the justice system.

dabears10 · 08-20-2009, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawk

Vick kills dogs, received 19 months

Burress shoots him self in leg, receives 24 months

Leonard Little kills someone while driving drunk, receives 90 days

Stallworth also kills someone while driving drunk, receives 30 days

ah, the beauty of the justice system.

Just depends where you do it.

Geo · 08-20-2009, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawk

Burress shoots him self in leg, receives 24 months.

There's more to it than that. He took a loaded weapon, not registered in New York, into a public setting. A club, full of innocent bystanders. Not only that, but then he fired that gun.

Thankfully the only one hurt is the one who deserved it.

CashmoneyDrew · 08-20-2009, 03:18 PM

I didn't really follow the Vick situation as much as others but didn't his jail time stem more from tax evasion and gambling more so than the dog fighting itself?

skinzzfan25 · 08-20-2009, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Geo

There's more to it than that. He took a loaded weapon, not registered in New York, into a public setting. A club, full of innocent bystanders. Not only that, but then he fired that gun.

Thankfully the only one hurt is the one who deserved it.

Very much so. I love him as a player but really the only person he can blame here is himself.

aNYtitan · 08-21-2009, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by the decider13

His permit was expired and NY has a law against any concealed firearm even if it is licensed.

I know, which is why I was amused and outraged that his lawyer kept calling it a legal firearm, cause if it was, he would have a defense in his case.