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08-24-2009, 07:03 AM
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Michael Crabtree
I got a few questions an I was wondering if anyone knew the answers.
If he reenters the draft do the 49ers get another pick?
Can't the 49ers trade him? Why not trade the guy if your going to end up with nothing.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...e-enter-draft/
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08-24-2009, 07:25 AM
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No the 9ers dont get a pick
I believe the tradeline was 15th August for unsigned rookies. at least thats what said in the other threads.
so yea there are already 2 threads for this and prolly should be in the team forum
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08-24-2009, 11:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Legend
If he reenters the draft do the 49ers get another pick?
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No, you make the pick, you take the risk that comes with it.
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Can't the 49ers trade him?
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The 14th was the cut off date to do so. Regardless, if they can't sign him, you think some other team would? No.
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Why not trade the guy if your going to end up with nothing.
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See above.
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08-24-2009, 11:43 AM
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What's with this re-entry talk? Didn't his agent already say no such threat was made.
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08-24-2009, 11:45 AM
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Regardless, if they can't sign him, you think some other team would? No.
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49'ers own the rights to him until next draft. if he could just sign with anyone then there's no point in having the draft at all right?
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What's with this re-entry talk? Didn't his agent already say no such threat was made.
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there's no other option if he isn't signed.
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08-24-2009, 11:57 AM
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there's no other option if he isn't signed.
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Do you guys honestly think he's gonna go the whole season without signing?
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08-24-2009, 11:58 AM
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Do you guys honestly think he's gonna go the whole season without signing?
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word is he doesnt want to play for them either so idk whats going through his mind.
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08-24-2009, 12:19 PM
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word is he doesnt want to play for them either so idk whats going through his mind.
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Do you have a link to this "word" ?
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08-24-2009, 02:24 PM
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49'ers own the rights to him until next draft. if he could just sign with anyone then there's no point in having the draft at all right?
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I meant if he was traded. They would have to trade for him, then sign him. Do you really think any team would offer him more than what the Niners already have in addition to what they would have to trade?
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08-24-2009, 02:26 PM
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Quote:
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I meant if he was traded. They would have to trade for him, then sign him. Do you really think any team would offer him more than what the Niners already have in addition to what they would have to trade?
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a desperate team that NEEDS a WR sure i could see it. they'd have to have the contract set up and ready to sign though before any trade goes through and im not sure i see that happening.
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Do you have a link to this "word" ?
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i have what i heard on NFL Network is that ok? not everything comes with a link.
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08-24-2009, 02:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brent
I meant if he was traded. They would have to trade for him, then sign him. Do you really think any team would offer him more than what the Niners already have in addition to what they would have to trade?
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I actually think its not that weird a thought. If you were for instance the ravens or some other team bound to pick late in the first next year and you can trade that pick to the 9ers the niners at least get an extra first rounder out of it and the team trading for him 'only' has to pay him the money of a receiver picked in the draft where crabs was picked. If I were some team needing a wide receiver (ravens or whatever) and you have solid info that crabs just flatout doesnt wanna play in SF I'd see if I can get something done here. Basicly it would be an outside shot to turn your late first round pick of next year into a top10 pick in this years draft and it only costs you overpaying the player somewhat.
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08-24-2009, 03:08 PM
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Crabtree sounds like a real dick.
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08-24-2009, 03:11 PM
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Crabtree sounds like a real dick.
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you never know though with agents behind the scenes.
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08-24-2009, 03:13 PM
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you never know though with agents behind the scenes.
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Of course the agent plays a big role, but its ultimately on the player.
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08-24-2009, 03:38 PM
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i have what i heard on NFL Network is that ok? not everything comes with a link.
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Alot/Most of the things said on NFL Network is/are commentary, NOT FACTUAL.
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08-24-2009, 03:42 PM
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Alot/Most of the things said on NFL Network is/are commentary, NOT FACTUAL.
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goddamn did i once say what i heard was 100% true? no thats why i said "what i heard".
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08-24-2009, 03:45 PM
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Quote:
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i have what i heard on NFL Network is that ok? not everything comes with a link.
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Everything credible should come with one.
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08-24-2009, 03:47 PM
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49ers should just wait him out now. any chance of him contributing this year is out the window.
there is gonna come a point where the braintrust of Crabtree/Parker realizes that their chances of signing for a fair market, #10 overall contract are fading away, and if he re-enters the draft in 2010, he'd be lucky to make the first round.
Eugene Parker wants to get paid. Michael Crabtree wants to get paid, and deep down, probably wants to play at some point. 49ers have all the leverage right now.
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08-24-2009, 03:52 PM
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Harvin for Crabtree strait up! :D
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Quote:
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goddamn did i once say what i heard was 100% true? no thats why i said "what i heard".
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Actually, you said "the word is".
I'll ask... who's word? What words? The more context you have allows for more credibility. I'm not challenging you. I'm challenging the person you say you heard say it. Without knowing what was said, all I can do is assume it's a laughable commentary.
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Everything credible should come with one.
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if we lived in a perfect world.
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Actually, you said "the word is".
I'll ask... who's word? What words? The more context you have allows for more credibility. I'm not challenging you. I'm challenging the person you say you heard say it. Without knowing what was said, all I can do is assume it's a laughable commentary.
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the word is the word of who said it. i dont remember who said it. obviously whoever said it heard it from someone else.
where there's smoke there's usually fire.
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08-24-2009, 04:11 PM
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That's weird. I haven't heard once about him not wanting to play for the Niners.
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08-24-2009, 05:51 PM
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Quote:
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if we lived in a perfect world.
the word is the word of who said it. i dont remember who said it. obviously whoever said it heard it from someone else.
where there's smoke there's usually fire.
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MOST of the stuff put on here has links. You don't need a perfect world to have credible information.
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08-25-2009, 12:47 AM
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This one is starting to get really interesting.
After the affect that a year had off had on Mike Williams does anyone think a team would touch Crabtree on the first day next year? This is a guy who was never timed(iirc) this year, had some character issues heading into the draft(mostly around ego), didn't test as well as expected in any of the tests he did do and is now asking for more money than his draft position justifies.
Crabtree is getting very close to that point where he ends his career before it ever really starts and if it is his agent that is causing it he needs to step up and terminate it, if he is at fault then there really is nothing anyone can do for him now.
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MOST of the stuff put on here has links. You don't need a perfect world to have credible information.
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