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Old 08-26-2009, 08:31 PM    (permalink
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Default Would Denver hire Josh McDaniels today?

Knowing the way it has unfolded, would Denver hire McDaniels today?

When he came on they were a young team with young potential superstars at some extremely key positions (QB, OT, WR) and were just a good RB away from being possibly the most loaded offensive team in the league. While they may have had a really bad defense, they did have some quality players to build around (DJ, an aging Champ, Dumervil, etc) and it looked like the team just needed one or all of the following: 1) simple tweaking, 2) a fresh voice and/or 3) a change in mentality.

McDaniels was supposed to provide that for the team by taking the offense to the next level while kick starting the defense.



Now? We all know the story.

NeckBeard at QB.

Marshall practicing with the scout team and likely the next one out of town.

A stream of strange stories coming out of the organization.

Naked women walking up and down the sidelines offering lap dances during practices.



I only made one of those things up.


Does Bowlen still make the hire if he can see into the future? I'd really like to hear from Denver fans in particular on this one.
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I don't think so
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Old 08-26-2009, 08:35 PM    (permalink
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Why wouldnt they? They have the amazing neckbeard at QB
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would if the broncos have an amazing season and we all look stupid at the end of the year by questioning the great coach mcdaniels?
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would if the broncos have an amazing season and we all look stupid at the end of the year by questioning the great coach mcdaniels?
I'll take that chance.
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for **** sake people stop making thread about him until he gets at least a couple games under his belt(please dont i know there will be 10 made anyways)
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All McDanials did was lost Cutler. Everything else was going to happen anyway. For example the Marshall thing.
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This is stupid. Why would they?
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This year the Broncos will have a solid season, and at the end of next season you will all wish your organisation could lure McDaniels away to coach them.

and I agree with earlier poster, why start yet another Broncos/McDaniels bashing thread before the season has already started? How about you wait until the Broncos are 3-0 after beating Cinci, Cleveland and Oakland before starting the next McDaniels is an idiot thread?
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All McDanials did was lost Cutler. Everything else was going to happen anyway. For example the Marshall thing.
Ah alright. Basically running your teams best player out of town should qualify as a career ender with your current organization. Nope nope nope he would not be hired today
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I think I could coach the Broncos to a 3-0 record with that schedule.
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I thought it was stupid to hire him in the first place. If they knew they were going to end up losing Cutler I would think that they would have hired someone else.
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Yes, because Bowlen saw the future of hiring Spags as well. It was ugly. He got in to a fist fight with Champ, Marshall and Cutler all at once and all three were released. That was much worse.

Honestly, Cutler is gone, but that is not totally McDaniels fault. It's like 30 Josh, 20 Bowlen, 50 Jay. Anyone who blames McD 100 percent should work on dislodging their head from their ass. Marshall's problems have absolutely nothing to do with McDaniels. At all.

McDaniels has had a shakey offseason, but that is hardly reason for him to be crucified in the preseason. With Shanny being fired, I expected a shakey offseason no matter who was hired. I didn't expect Cutler to be traded, but I knew there would be some changes. At least let the man make it part way through the season before the flood of "ZOMG WORST COACH EVERZZ"
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Honestly, I think whoever would have been hired would have butt heads with Cutler anyways. The guy wanted out since Shanahan and Bates was let go. Remember another important thing about the whole situation, Bowlen claimed the reason he went through with the trade was because Cutler wouldn't return any of his calls. Now you could say that wouldn't have happened if the talks of the Cassel trade hadn't surfaced, but it's just weird that things got taken that far over something like this. Of course when you have Bus Cook as your agent, there always tends to be fireworks in the offseason.
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This offseason has been hell for them. Seriously. Personally, I think SABF is cursed.
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I think they'd have rather gone after chucky or tried to lure away any other assistant available other than McDaniels.

I think right now everyone is just holding on and hoping against all odds the rollercoaster finishes with success.
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I'm glad people didn't go hard after Grimm, though I doubt he stays an assistant for more than 1 more year
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Of course he would still be hired he has a regular season loss record of 0. Cutler is way more to blame than McDaniels for him leaving. So what if he tried to get Cassell. He's your boss get over it. Apart from Cutler being a ***** and Marshall being a prima donna it hasnt been horrible for Denver. They still an above average offensive line, drafted a potentially very good running back, a good receiving corps(especially with Marshall) and have begun retooling his defense. After we have seen what he could do with Cassell we should at least give him a chance with Orton
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lol if you think this is bad, wait until ESPN starts talking about this story. Everyone better hope that Denver has success.
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Of course he would still be hired he has a regular season loss record of 0. Cutler is way more to blame than McDaniels for him leaving. So what if he tried to get Cassell. He's your boss get over it. Apart from Cutler being a ***** and Marshall being a prima donna it hasnt been horrible for Denver. They still an above average offensive line, drafted a potentially very good running back, a good receiving corps(especially with Marshall) and have begun retooling his defense. After we have seen what he could do with Cassell we should at least give him a chance with Orton
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Everyone should realize that this is not a thread intended to bash McDaniels. Aside from laughing at a few of the dumber stories I've heard, I could care less either way. I'm wondering if Bronco management is still behind the signing or if they wish they could get a do over (since obviously you're not going to fire him right before the season) at this point in time.

So all the butt hurt Bronco fans can calm down and just answer the ******* question.
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Of course no announcement or public statement has been made, I'm just asking people to speculate on how they think he feels.

Personally, from where I stand, if I was in his shoes and I could have a do over, I would look elsewhere given what I know now.

It's very simple, and I think its relevant. Just because it could (potentially) reflect badly on the organization doesn't mean that there is no reason to talk about it. This is one of the most unique situations I have ever seen in the NFL.

A young, wet-behind-the-ears coach comes in, thinking he's hot **** because he has been tutored by this "uber genius" Bill Belichick, decides he's going to clean house and do things "his way" and immediately begins to down grade positions on the team thinking that he can "coach 'em up" and have a better team as a result, giving a way a 26 year old franchise QB in the process. You would be hard pressed to find anything like this in NFL history. It's not like he took over the Lions, a team already bereft of much talent. The Broncos were a playoff caliber team at times last year, and looked to have one of the best offenses in the league going into this year. Now? I wouldn't be surprised if they finish in the bottom third.
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If the Broncos hired Spagnuolo instead of McDumbass, they'd be a SB caliber team within 2 years.

I was surprised they didn't hire him. He was a perfect fit for that team.

EDIT: I must admit though, they do look better so far than I expected. Maybe all of us are counting out McDaniels a little too soon.
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If the Broncos hired Spagnuolo instead of McDumbass, they'd be a SB caliber team within 2 years.

I was surprised they didn't hire him. He was a perfect fit for that team.

EDIT: I must admit though, they do look better so far than I expected. Maybe all of us are counting out McDaniels a little too soon.
To be fair, Spag did his own house cleaning in St. Louis as well. I just think that Cutler would have wanted out either way and used the trade talks as excuse to either get a new contract or leave Denver since both Shanahan and Bates were gone.
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