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Old 08-30-2009, 08:37 AM    (permalink
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Kevin Mawae is the President of the NLPA and thinks the rookie pay scale is fine.
huh? I said it may never be like the NBA, because the fact that rookies get overpaid for provening nothing means that players who have proven a lot will get overpaid. Just look around, its a proven fact.
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Gotta love this news. At the same time, I'm not sold Andre can get in to practice and have a starting spot locked up in two weeks or less. Anthony Collins, right now, is playing well enough (at least in the club's eyes) and has been working hard with a great attitude, he probably will be starting against Denver. Ideally, I'd like to see what Collins can do at LG with Whitworth at LT, Cook at C, Williams at RG, and Smith at RT. Nate Livings will work as a somewhat experienced backup. Still, that may never happen, and if it does, it's probably a ways off.

I like hearing, though, that a deal is close or imminent, whichever. It's a sign of progress that I really didn't expect for another week or so. Andre Smith should be starting by Week 4.
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Trey Wingo of ESPN responded to Ochocinco's scoop by saying "way to be a jerk about it." (Said Chad in response, "I didn't complain when you were ripping me on TV, I didn't call you a jerk, I took and just child pleased the situation.")
hahahhaha trey wingo is a tool.

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Smith is officially in the fold for a deal up to $42 million. He'll begin practice.. well, about 10 minutes ago. About damn time. Still, I admit, I'm ecstatic to have Andre and I have no bad blood against him for his lengthy holdout. I'm excited to see what the guy can do in pads against the world's best. I hope he's ready to play and compete for that starting job he was penciled in at before minicamp.
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Smith is officially in the fold for a deal up to $42 million. He'll begin practice.. well, about 10 minutes ago. About damn time. Still, I admit, I'm ecstatic to have Andre and I have no bad blood against him for his lengthy holdout. I'm excited to see what the guy can do in pads against the world's best. I hope he's ready to play and compete for that starting job he was penciled in at before minicamp.
Does he fit in his pads or does he look out of shape from his lengthy holdout?
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Does he fit in his pads or does he look out of shape from his lengthy holdout?
haha We'll see. He's supposedly been working out and staying in football shape, but there's no way (to me) that he's there. He has to not only stay in football shape, but also adjust to NFL speed and pace, which has been proven to be tough to simulate or imitate. I wouldn't expect that he ballooned at all, he could probably go back and play in a game for Alabama, but he's probably got a ways to go to get into NFL shape. We'll see though, where he is mentally is, to me, just as important.
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Steve was agreeing with you.

Andre Smith looks a bit out of shape in that picture. That Bengals OL does not look pretty at the moment..
No one has ever, to my knowledge raved about his shape. He's a thick guy and doesn't carry that weight all too well. He also has a very chubby face. Didn't stop him from being the best offensive lineman in college football a year ago. No one ever commented positively on his solidity or muscle mass, but man the kid can play. We'll see how he does.

Not sure how Andre Smith finally signing and getting into practice warrants a negative comment about the offensive line, as they likely just got much better with this addition.
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Steve is fully aware of Andre Smith and his abilities. Steve loves him as a player. A prodigy in every sense of the word. But, it would be really nice if he discovered free weights.

Andre Smith definitely improves the OL, but he hasn't been working with the others and there is not a lot of talent around him. Not a great situation.

Steve expects great things from Smith, but expects him to struggle early on due to missing a ton of camp.
He's gonna have Bobbie Williams right next to him who is definitely a talented player. Those two run blocking together is going to be a thing of beauty. The only spot on the line thats really a question mark is at Center with Kyle Cook. I think they're gonna be fine though with some time together. I would like to see Anthony Collins moved to LT and Andrew Whitworth moved back to LG but Whit has looked pretty good out there.
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My problem with a rookie slotting system would be the length of contracts. If the rookies are forced to take less money than they are now, you have an issue with contract lengths. Given how much shorter a NFL players career is than say, the NBA or MLB... Their peak happens much quicker and it would be hard to agree to sign for a long period when your big contract comes after your rookie contract.

No team is going to agree to sign a 1st overall pick for just 4 years I wouldn't think. At the same time, it would suck for a rookie to get locked into a long term deal for a significant amount less than their market value.

It would be hard to find that happy median. Not to mention I wouldn't be so sure that the money would go to vets. It's been proven time and time again that you draft super bowl winners, not sign them in FA.

Sure, the veterans could agree that all first rounders sign to 6 or 7 year deals but I would think they would realize that isn't a fair way to go about things.

I think it's a fairly complex issue that would take a lot of work and concessions to get done. I guess really the best route would be to just go off current contracts but cap guaranteed money at an X% increase so they stop getting so ridiculous. Make it 3% increase a year or 6% increase instead of 13% to 20%
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You would think for once he could come to his team's camp in shape...
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LOL in response to being fined for an orange chinstrap Chad Ochosinco tweeted this to Oprah:

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You would think for once he could come to his team's camp in shape...
It seems he has come in shape from what I've seen. May not look like it to the average person but I don't think his conditioning is of much concern.
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I ******* hate Trey Wingo so much.
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Smith broke his foot today at practice..... out a few weeks
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Smith broke his foot today at practice..... out a few weeks
For reals?

Cue the millions of "he's so fat it broke his foot" jokes.
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