The Official St. Louis Rams 2009 Season Discussion Thread - Page 3

NGSeiler · 10-11-2009, 09:43 PM

There were some positives, yes. Remove the turnovers from the equation, and the Rams probably would have been pretty competitive through the game. This team just needs to find a way to minimize mistakes. I like their chances in Jacksonville next week.

diabsoule · 10-12-2009, 01:48 AM

If you guys have not checked out your coaching staff I suggest you do that. There is a reason you guys look terrible this year.

terribletowel39 · 10-13-2009, 01:53 PM

Without getting too political, what would you guys think if Rush was to buy the team??

NGSeiler · 10-13-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by diabsoule

If you guys have not checked out your coaching staff I suggest you do that. There is a reason you guys look terrible this year.

Spagnuolo is five games into his first year as a head coach. Some of these problems are going to take time (and probably some roster moves) to resolve, but I think he's on the right track.

If there's a coach that's probably on the hot seat for the Rams right now, it's Pat Shurmur, the offensive coordinator. While the playcalling was better against Minnesota, he's been far too conservative IMO prior to that.

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Originally Posted by terribletowel39

Without getting too political, what would you guys think if Rush was to buy the team??

I would be disappointed.

Splat · 10-16-2009, 01:00 PM

Ex-Ram Cullen Bryant dies

yodapoop · 10-16-2009, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by terribletowel39

Without getting too political, what would you guys think if Rush was to buy the team??

I woulda hated it, and that has nothing to do with the differences in opinion I have with Rush. There were a lot of players coming out they would not play for the Rams if Rush was part owner, and maybe that is a bit unfair to Rush, but it seemed that players would not want to play for him.

NGSeiler · 10-17-2009, 11:00 AM

Doesn't make much of a difference now, he's been removed from the Checketts ownership group that's bidding on the team.

holt_bruce81 · 10-17-2009, 07:55 PM

I hope the Rumors are true and Marshall Faulk is taking Rush's place in the ownership Bid!

yodapoop · 10-18-2009, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by holt_bruce81

I hope the Rumors are true and Marshall Faulk is taking Rush's place in the ownership Bid!

That would be much better and way less controversy.

The Unseen · 10-18-2009, 03:21 PM

Good game guys. You bastards fought, but you still lost. Bad mojo in that organization

rockio42 · 10-18-2009, 08:41 PM

i hate my life....and i will find you Unseen!

yodapoop · 10-19-2009, 10:16 AM

Don't worry rockio.

A. We are beating the Colts this week. Sure, people are saying this is the best team in the NFL going against the worst team in the NFL. But this week will truly show on any given Sunday, a future hall of fame QB can have a bad game, that an 0-6 team can beat a 6-0 team on any given Sunday.

B. The Unseen is in my closet, tied up.

NGSeiler · 10-19-2009, 10:35 AM

Honestly, if the Rams don't lose Avery, it could have been a very different game. Shurmur wasn't afraid to throw the ball down field with Avery available. Once Avery went out, the offensive gameplan curled up into a ball and didn't challenge anyone.

It's amazing how badly the Rams could use a difference maker at receiver right now.

rockio42 · 10-19-2009, 12:59 PM

Ya, Avery makes a such a huge difference and I'm confident that with either Laurent Robinson or Avery in that game, we would've won...I'm deciding to announce the official start of my campaign for the Rams to draft Dez Bryant at this moment!

rockio42 · 10-20-2009, 04:13 PM

Will Witherspoon traded to the Philadelphia Eagles in exchange for Rookie WR Brandon Gibson and a 2010 5th round pick...

well, I guess Sean Weatherspoon makes a ton of sense now

holt_bruce81 · 10-20-2009, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rockio42

Will Witherspoon traded to the Philadelphia Eagles in exchange for Rookie WR Brandon Gibson and a 2010 5th round pick...

well, I guess Sean Weatherspoon makes a ton of sense now

We would have to trade down. Weatherspoon is a beast but he's not worth a top 5 pick.

NGSeiler · 10-20-2009, 10:33 PM

Interesting deal. Better to trade Witherspoon and get something in return for him than make him a cap casualty in 2010, I guess.

KCJ58 · 10-21-2009, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by NGSeiler

Interesting deal. Better to trade Witherspoon and get something in return for him than make him a cap casualty in 2010, I guess.

I agree with you there but I have not herd much of Brandon Gibson os he any good, will he make an impact this year?

holt_bruce81 · 10-25-2009, 07:36 PM

I'm sick of watching Bulger play like poop.

yodapoop · 10-25-2009, 10:28 PM

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I'm sick of watching Bulger play like poop.

I am tired of every1 not named Steven Jackson playing like poop.

killxswitch · 10-26-2009, 11:55 AM

I'm not trying to dig on you guys, I am honestly curious. What happened to the Rams? I know after the move to STL it took a while as I expect it would with any team, but from '99 to '03 or '04 you were still pretty competitive. Was there some sort of big front office change, or just a run of bad luck, or what?

stlouisfan37 · 10-26-2009, 01:02 PM

What really bothered me was an article I read a couple of years ago around draft time that basically said the Rams were looking to improve their drafting because the scouting service they were paying for wasn't producing the kind of results they wanted. I was flabbergasted. How can an NFL team rely on a scouting service to analyze talent and get a strong guage on whether or not a player is a good fit for them?

Then I look at teams that draft well year in and year out. The Ravens impress me the most. They have a GM in Ozzie Newsome who is an excellent talent evaluator, and a scouting staff that is very proactive in diligently turning stones to find gems in the rough. They have had success in getting early round talent for late round picks in the supplemental draft. Jared Gaither was an excellent example. Academically ineligible, they went to his pro day at Maryland, watched him work out, interviewed him, measured him, investigated his past, the whole 9 yards. At 6'8" and 330 and with impressive footwork for a man his size, he was built directly from the mold of Jonathan Ogden. They got him for a 5th rounder, groomed him, and he is now a solid starter and has had no off-the-field issues that I know of. He was projected to be a solid 1st rounder in the 2008 draft.

I think the biggest key for the Rams has been in drafting philosophy. They have made several reaches with key draft picks due to drafting for need rather than taking the best available player. They have not developed a system and stuck with it long enough to see results. They do not have the patience to build a foundation that can stand the test of time.

I believe that what they need to do to build a strong team is to dedicate the next three drafts to taking the best players available REGARDLESS OF NEED OR POSITION. The Rams need talent, plain and simple, and not in the form of high priced veterans. We need young talent that can be influenced to buy into what Spags is preaching, and supplemented by reasonably priced free agent veterans at key positions. We do need a franchise QB, so that is the one position I would consider drafting out of need. Once you get a core of talent assembled, that is when you start considering drafting out of need. However, when rebuilding from scratch, drafting by need is a luxury that time does not afford you.

Thumper · 10-26-2009, 11:03 PM

I just came in here to thank you guys for Will Witherspoon, so yeah... Thanks.

holt_bruce81 · 10-26-2009, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Thumper

I just came in here to thank you guys for Sean Witherspoon, so yeah... Thanks.

Sean Weatherspoon plays for Mizzou.

And it was a good trade for both teams. WILL Witherspoon won't be in a Rams uniform when the Rams do turn it around, so why not get something for him right now. And from everything I've been hearing, Brandon Gibson is going to be a nice Receiver in the league.

Thumper · 10-26-2009, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by holt_bruce81

Sean Weatherspoon plays for Mizzou.

And it was a good trade for both teams. WILL Witherspoon won't be in a Rams uniform when the Rams do turn it around, so why not get something for him right now. And from everything I've been hearing, Brandon Gibson is going to be a nice Receiver in the league.

:D He's new to the team, I'm still learning. But he had a monster game and looks like a great pick-up. 6 tackles, a sack, an interception, a FF and a TD in his first game as an Eagle, very impressive.

And Brandon Gibson is very talented.