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Old 09-21-2009, 11:04 AM    (permalink
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Default 49ers accuse Jets of tampering.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...tampering.html

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4491142

It is about Crabtree and I know there is already a thread, but I figured this is big enough news to have it's own, if I am wrong sorry and please merge. Anyway, this is a pretty large turn of events if true.
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Get your popcorn ready!!

Say it ain't so, Rex!! But it would explain a whole lot about why Crabs hasn't signed yet.
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How long do cases usually last like this?


I know that a team doesnt present something like this unless they have some sort of evidence. So the 49ers must have something on the Jets.

Deion Sanders needs to speak up that loud mouth bastard, he knows something!
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So if the Jets are found tampering what would the loose? Money, and 1st round pick? not being able to sign Crabtree?
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So if the Jets are found tampering what would the loose? Money, and 1st round pick? not being able to sign Crabtree?
Its impossible to know since it is at the discretion of Goodell, but this seems like a particularly egregious offense because it may cost the 49ers a top 10 pick.
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So if the Jets are found tampering what would the loose? Money, and 1st round pick? not being able to sign Crabtree?
They'd forfeit a pick to the Niners, if they are found guilty, most likely. The value of which, I have no idea.
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The tricky thing is, these things are so hard to prove. There have been a lot of complaints about the Jets in the last few years though, so I bet they're going to do a pretty thorough job investigating it. Honestly though, if the Jets are actually doing this it's an absolutely massive mistake. They could obviously use an upgrade at WR but they've been doing alright with what they have there thus far, and I don't see why Crabtree is worth the risk with the apparent baggage he's bringing as talented as he is.
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So if the Jets are found tampering what would the loose? Money, and 1st round pick? not being able to sign Crabtree?
My geuss would be all three. It has really screwed up things for SF, Crabtree, but most importantly it has the potential to ruin the drafting pay system. The Jets are offering to pay him what they feel he's worth and not where he's drafted. If that caught on teams would bid for the top prospects and they would refuse to sign for anything less than that no matter where they were drafted.

A 1st round draft pick is a significant punishment for the organization. Big fines stings whoever gets them individually. The Jets couldn't be allowed to sign Crabtree. If they paid a million dollar fine, gave up next years first, but when it comes to the draft Crabtree would fall all the way down to the Jets into the second round. No team would pick him as they know he wants the huge dollars the Jets promised him. They would still come out ahead and that would be unacceptable.
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probably a later round pick(s)
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probably a later round pick(s)
I disagree, if found guilty they have jeopardized the slotted rookie pay scale, screwed with more than just the 49ers. I find it hard to believe they would only take a later pick from them if they were found guilty. The 49ers would have to be rewarded by the Jets with more, but who knows.
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How is the league going to prove this?
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How is the league going to prove this?
Well I assume it's going to go through eugene parker and deion sanders but it's almost impossible to prove. They didn't hit the Vikings with anything last year so I figure it's almost impossible to prove.
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Well I assume it's going to go through eugene parker and deion sanders but it's almost impossible to prove. They didn't hit the Vikings with anything last year so I figure it's almost impossible to prove.
Teams don't come forward without evidence.
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probably a later round pick(s)
The Patriots lost a first round pick for taping hand signals...sabataging a teams ability to sign their first round pick seems more serious than that
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Teams don't come forward without evidence.
And teams have come forward before and the league hasn't taken action. Regardless of what a team comes forward with, it's going to be very difficult to prove.
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The Patriots lost a first round pick for taping hand signals...sabataging a teams ability to sign their first round pick seems more serious than that
Random much? Tampering isn't all that uncommon and occasionally a team loses a late round pick. It's not the same as say, cheating in playoff games.
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The Patriots lost a first round pick for taping hand signals...sabataging a teams ability to sign their first round pick seems more serious than that
Are you serious? How is flat out cheating even close to being as bad as tampering with an unsigned draft pick?
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Random much? Tampering isn't all that uncommon and occasionally a team loses a late round pick. It's not the same as say, cheating in playoff games.
When was the last time a team lost a draft pick due to tampering? I don't recollect any recent events. The last time I've heard of a team losing a draft pick was the patriots.
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49ers lost a 2008 5th rounder for tampering with Lance Briggs. They also were forced to switch draft picks with the Bears in the 3rd round.
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How about this. Let the 49ers take the 9th draft slot worth of draft picks from the Jets, 1350. They can choose to take whichever ones they want for as many years as they want. Should have to declare a week before the draft which draft picks they want to take that year.

Since draft picks one season are worth more than next year ones they should get even more, say 25%-33%, making it 1700 or 1800.

They should get that regardless of whether they sign Crabtree or trade him away. And the Jets cannot trade for Cabtree or draft him if he re-enters.
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Are you serious? How is flat out cheating even close to being as bad as tampering with an unsigned draft pick?
Because the 49ers 10th pick in the first round was almost stolen from them, it is the same as cheating... It is cheating.
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