week 2 ESPN power rankings - Page 2

SeanTaylorRIP · 09-22-2009, 08:14 PM

Skins should be 5 spots lower.

Bengalsrocket · 09-22-2009, 09:38 PM

Bengals should be higher. We beat green bay yet we're 12 spots lower? I'm not saying we should even be higher than them, just not that far away. I personally feel we should be closer to where the dolphins are now at 19.

Jughead10 · 09-22-2009, 10:56 PM

I just posted this in Shiver's thread. I think all the huge offense that we are not used to seeing from the Ravens has made people overlook that this isn't a typical Ravens defense. At least not right now it is.

vikes_28 · 09-22-2009, 11:29 PM

I don't think number 5 is the appropriate spot for the Vikings. I think they should be 7 - 10 spots lower. Here is my reasoning:

1. The Vikings played two teams that are 0-2. They did pretty well against them, but nothing that hasn't ever happened before.

2. They couldn't stop the run in those two games. The Lions got above 100 yards rushing.

3. The Vikings didn't get moving until the second half. I don't know if it's just because the Lions were excited? Or if it was just the way they played. But something has to be done about the offense and defense showing up later in the game.

4. I can see that Favre is managing the game, which is what he came here to do, but he can't be successful if he is not being protected. If Favre gets hurt, who will manage the game? I guess that is usually expected when there are two new starters.

Number 5 is steep, I would say a lot lower.

Bengals78 · 09-22-2009, 11:40 PM

I would hope the Bengals could be closer to middle of the pack right now, but it is espn so I put no stock into it. We should be 2-0 but the big man upstairs decided to shun us for our years of stupidity after finally having a good offseason. We played hard at GB and won. And how about the defense? huh? yeaaahhh. Once Carson gets his timing down, I think we could really start to make some teams sweat.

Denver Bronco56 · 09-23-2009, 01:13 AM

I understand we played 2 teams that well arent GOOD...but in the same sense when they played their other games they played good (EXE. Chad Ocho and Jamal Lewis played great against their other opponents) but when they play us we shut them down...

i like the idea of being underrated...but we are playing good football

and i understand we ALMOST didnt win the bengals game....but we outplayed them 59:00 minutes and they scored there only points on the last drive

Saints 4 Lyfe · 09-23-2009, 01:19 AM

right now Saints are top 5 imo..

CC.SD · 09-23-2009, 01:52 AM

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Yes, and the Chargers lose a nail biter to the supposed #1 and fall all the way from 6 to 11....lol. So f***ing stupid.

seriously...so if Naanee holds onto that pass in the final seconds in the end zone, are the Ravens 11? It doesn't make sense.

killxswitch · 09-23-2009, 07:40 AM

I don't think the Colts deserve the #3 ranking. They had no business winning that game in Miami. The Saints and Jets seem too low. I would also rank the Bengals higher.

LizardState · 09-23-2009, 09:48 AM

9ers ahead of Dallas? Whod'a thunk it? Eagles are way too high without McNabb. Ravens are no surprise at #1 to anyone who saw them in last season's playoffs.

If present trends continue Patriots could be going down faster than a preacher's daughter. And we could be looking at a SB matchup of Jets vs. Giants or vs. NOLA Saints.

Power rankings are 95% speculation after 2 games as scheduling is the most important factor now, in the early season it's 32 teams vaguely divided into Haves & Have Nots.

21ST · 09-23-2009, 10:40 AM

Wow cant believe the skins are that high

vikes_28 · 09-23-2009, 10:42 AM

The 9ers are looking good this year. But we all know they won't win the superbowl this year. Maybe when they get a decent QB.

YAYareaRB · 09-23-2009, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by vikes_29

The 9ers are looking good this year. But we all know they won't win the superbowl this year. Maybe when they get a decent QB.

I wish we could nab hall of famers out of retirement.

vikes_28 · 09-23-2009, 11:06 AM

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I wish we could nab hall of famers out of retirement.

Yeah, the thought of the Vikings winning a superbowl with Favre is being optimistic.

abaddon41_80 · 09-23-2009, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by vikes_29

The 9ers are looking good this year. But we all know they won't win the superbowl this year. Maybe when they get a decent QB.

Shaun Hill is a decent QB and I think the 49ers could win a Super Bowl with him

...providing they first get a dominant pass rusher, a huge upgrade at right tackle, and a true #1 receiver :( :(

no bare feet · 09-23-2009, 12:39 PM

If a lot of things happen for a lot of teams then every team can say they could win the Super Bowl.

CC.SD · 09-23-2009, 12:40 PM

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great. now i'm laughing so hard i'm literally going to asphyxiate.

Man I really want to make an autoerotica joke right here.

YAYareaRB · 09-23-2009, 12:40 PM

Yeah I mean.. IF those things happened, it wouldn't be hard to see the Niners being one of the better teams in the league...If those things happened

abaddon41_80 · 09-23-2009, 12:42 PM

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great. now i'm laughing so hard i'm literally going to asphyxiate.

The sad part is that I am serious. Hill is much better than Brad Johnson or Trent Dilfer and both have won a Super Bowl in the past 10 years. I'm just saying that Hill is not what is holding the 49ers back, like some people seem to believe.

awfullyquiet · 09-23-2009, 12:43 PM

really though, I think SI's power rankings look a little better

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...3.1/index.html

Ravens
Saints
Giants
Jets
Colts
Falcons
Vikings
Steelers
Patriots
Iggles
Niners
Chargers
Cowboys
Broncos
Bungles
Packers
Bears
Texans
Titans
Bills
Cards
Seahawks
Fins
Raiders?
Redskins
Panthers
Chiefs
Jags
Lions
Rams
Browns

CC.SD · 09-23-2009, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by YAYareaRB

Yeah I mean.. IF those things happened, it wouldn't be hard to see the Niners being one of the better teams in the league...If those things happened

I still think the 9ers will be good, I actually like Hill.

DMWSackMachine · 09-23-2009, 12:47 PM

Hill is nowhere close to as good as Brad Johnson was. He was a Pro Bowler multiple times in his career and finished in the top 5 in passer rating a few times.

Shaun Hill is a borderline starter at best. Beating two teams (narrowly, even) from the worst division in football does not qualify as anything significant. This reminds me of a couple years back when SF won their first two games and everyone started talking about "watch out for the Niners!" and they proceeded to finish with 6 or 7 wins.

CC.SD · 09-23-2009, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DMWSackMachine

Hill is nowhere close to as good as Brad Johnson was. He was a Pro Bowler multiple times in his career and finished in the top 5 in passer rating a few times.

Shaun Hill is a borderline starter at best. Beating two teams (narrowly, even) from the worst division in football does not qualify as anything significant. This reminds me of a couple years back when SF won their first two games and everyone started talking about "watch out for the Niners!" and they proceeded to finish with 6 or 7 wins.

That was before Mike Singletary. This 9er team is on a mission to make Crabtree look like a lackbrain.

abaddon41_80 · 09-23-2009, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DMWSackMachine

Hill is nowhere close to as good as Brad Johnson was. He was a Pro Bowler multiple times in his career and finished in the top 5 in passer rating a few times.

Shaun Hill is a borderline starter at best. Beating two teams (narrowly, even) from the worst division in football does not qualify as anything significant. This reminds me of a couple years back when SF won their first two games and everyone started talking about "watch out for the Niners!" and they proceeded to finish with 6 or 7 wins.

No one thought anything about the 2007 Niners after those two games because they looked awful on offense and not nearly as good on defense as this year.

EDIT: And I think that if the 49ers had a dominant pass rusher ala Ware then the defense would easily be top 5 in the league and a good #1 WR, and a good right tackle we would have a much better offense than the Raven had. I stand by the statement that Hill is definitely not what is holding the 49ers back.

YAYareaRB · 09-23-2009, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DMWSackMachine

Hill is nowhere close to as good as Brad Johnson was. He was a Pro Bowler multiple times in his career and finished in the top 5 in passer rating a few times.

Shaun Hill is a borderline starter at best. Beating two teams (narrowly, even) from the worst division in football does not qualify as anything significant. This reminds me of a couple years back when SF won their first two games and everyone started talking about "watch out for the Niners!" and they proceeded to finish with 6 or 7 wins.

Maybe not but Brad Johnson did all that after he turned 30. Shaun Hill is capable of doing the same but I am, as a 49er fan, skeptical. We're not worried about our QB play because we're gonna be a run first team so if Shaun Hill can manage our games and continue to convert on 3rd downs. We're winning ugly and that's expected in the first couple weeks. But come on.. you're gonna fault us for barely beating last year's SB loser and last season's most injury ridden team. The Seahawks are a totally different squad with Hassleback and Tatupu.

Weren't you crying about not being higher after barely getting beat by the Ravens but the previous week you barely beat the Raiders.