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Old 09-24-2009, 04:22 PM    (permalink
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I think the 9ers should be higher.
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I don't see what it has to do with what week it was. Arizona played like garbage and that's that. Not having Breaston or Boldin not being 100% isn't going to decide their season. Fitzgerald was held in check and Warner was getting harassed the entire day by our defensive line.

Who have the Vikings beat? Detroit and Cleveland, two of the worst teams (if not the worst) in the NFL. The Saints are coming off of a great victory in Philadelphia and Drew Brees is off to the best start in his career. Meanwhile their defense is playing a lot better in terms of getting turnovers. Darren Sharper was obviously a great addition.


I wouldn't be so sure about Sharper after two weeks. He was TERRIBLE towards the end of his stay here. I agree that the Saints should probably be higher, but lets hold off on saying the defense is improved until they play an NFL caliber team not led by Kevin Kolb.
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I need to see more from the Colts before I rank them as high as everyone else is. They struggled to beat a poor Jacksonville team, at home, and then some how pulled out a win after being dominated by Miami.
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Cincinnati goes into Green Bay, plays sloppy, and still wins. However, they are 9 spots lower in your power rankings. Week Two is a bit too early to start calling fluke wins, so may I introduce to you the unfortunate likelihood, the Cincinnati Bengals are a better football team than the Green Bay Packers. They were certainly the better team on Sunday in which the Bengals outhustled, outran, and straight up out-worked the Packers team.

The Packers OL gets most of the heat, but what about their front seven which allowed 151 rushing yards to one of the league's worst running teams over the past few years, and managed only two sacks against an OL missing two of their projected starters and in flux. Greg Jennings was invisible and Rodgers to Driver was more of a late game thing as the Bengals shifted into more of a prevent defense (with 39 of his 99 yards coming in the last minute and a half). Despite that surge against the prevent defense (two drives totaling 94 yards), the Bengals were still able to outgain the Packers and win the football game (319-311). The loss could not be blamed on penalties, as the Bengals were the team that played more sloppily, committing 13 penalties totaling 100 yards.

I'm sorry, if the Bengals are not a good football team, then Green Bay is one of the league's worse. They were just 6-10 a year ago, their offensive line is one of the league worst, their running game is non-existent, their secondary is thin, and their front seven is still in transition to the 3-4 defense. Yet, they are the 14th best team in the league? They are better than the team that just came into Lambeau and beat them? Give it a rest... either you can side with some of the "experts" and acknowledge the Bengals as an up-and-coming team loaded with potential, or you can recognize the Packers as one of the league's worst 5-10 teams.
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The Broncos beat one sh*t team and one struggling team and go to number 28, while the Vikings beat two sh*t teams and go straight to number 6.

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Trying to keep the homer contained, but it doesn't make sense to me that everyone is so high on the Ravens and so down on the Chargers when the game came down to the final drive, basically the final play, without a guy named Ladainian Tomlinson playing.
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I'm fine with where the Saints are ranked. I'm happy as long as we're in the top 10. This coming stretch is really going to prove where we stand with games at Buffalo and home stands against the Jets and Giants.
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Trying to keep the homer contained, but it doesn't make sense to me that everyone is so high on the Ravens and so down on the Chargers when the game came down to the final drive, basically the final play, without a guy named Ladainian Tomlinson playing.
I agree, the Chargers are a good team. And the Ravens still have a lot of improving to do. This isn't the Ravens defense of old
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Trying to keep the homer contained, but it doesn't make sense to me that everyone is so high on the Ravens and so down on the Chargers when the game came down to the final drive, basically the final play, without a guy named Ladainian Tomlinson playing.
Your boys are all about playing it down to the wire. How many seconds were left in the game when Sproles scored that TD to go ahead vs Oakland? 20? That does present some challenges in terms of assigning a power ranking.

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Your boys are all about playing it down to the wire. How many seconds were left in the game when Sproles scored that TD to go ahead vs Oakland? 20? That does present some challenges in terms of assigning a power ranking.

It's been two weeks...are the Packers and Titans all about going 0-16? It's too early for sweeping statements IMO.
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It's been two weeks...are the Packers and Titans all about going 0-16? It's too early for sweeping statements IMO.
Who's making sweeping statements? You had 2 very close games against teams which are, at the moment, perceived to be of quite different quality.

If the Raiders had made the stop against Sproles and Lewis instead wiffed on the tackle, would it significantly change your assessment of the team? IMO, it shouldn't, yet I suspect it would have a very detectable effect on the power rankings out there.
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Hey, hey, hey. We beat the Bears! ;) 1-1 buddy.
You're right :D bad example, but it was an exaggeration anyway.

Taking something that occurred in week 1 and 2 and extrapolating it over a 16 game season=sweeping. 2 points=line, not pattern. It might bear out, but who knows? Chargers could get blown out in the next 14 games.
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You're right :D bad example, but it was an exaggeration anyway.

Taking something that occurred in week 1 and 2 and extrapolating it over a 16 game season=sweeping. 2 points=line, not pattern. It might bear out, but who knows? Chargers could get blown out in the next 14 games.
We can hope.
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The lack of respect for the Broncos is sickening. They are not a top team, but no way in hell are they are bottom 5 team.
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I don't think Denver is bottom 5, but I don't think we're top 20 either. Maybe fringe. I don't think we'll beat a good team this year. If we had an even half competent QB, we could talk about maybe 9 or 10 wins, but Kyle Orton is holding this team back.
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Cincinnati goes into Green Bay, plays sloppy, and still wins. However, they are 9 spots lower in your power rankings. Week Two is a bit too early to start calling fluke wins, so may I introduce to you the unfortunate likelihood, the Cincinnati Bengals are a better football team than the Green Bay Packers. They were certainly the better team on Sunday in which the Bengals outhustled, outran, and straight up out-worked the Packers team.

The Packers OL gets most of the heat, but what about their front seven which allowed 151 rushing yards to one of the league's worst running teams over the past few years, and managed only two sacks against an OL missing two of their projected starters and in flux. Greg Jennings was invisible and Rodgers to Driver was more of a late game thing as the Bengals shifted into more of a prevent defense (with 39 of his 99 yards coming in the last minute and a half). Despite that surge against the prevent defense (two drives totaling 94 yards), the Bengals were still able to outgain the Packers and win the football game (319-311). The loss could not be blamed on penalties, as the Bengals were the team that played more sloppily, committing 13 penalties totaling 100 yards.

I'm sorry, if the Bengals are not a good football team, then Green Bay is one of the league's worse. They were just 6-10 a year ago, their offensive line is one of the league worst, their running game is non-existent, their secondary is thin, and their front seven is still in transition to the 3-4 defense. Yet, they are the 14th best team in the league? They are better than the team that just came into Lambeau and beat them? Give it a rest... either you can side with some of the "experts" and acknowledge the Bengals as an up-and-coming team loaded with potential, or you can recognize the Packers as one of the league's worst 5-10 teams.
This is a very insightful post that I fear will be cast aside and ignored. But I will give you the much deserved attention that you will not get! THank you for this post Pudge!
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How are the Jets behind New England? The Pats clearly aren't hitting on all cylinders on O(or maybe the Jets D is just that good) and their D is trying to find it's identity while Mayo recovers. We also just beat them down and are yet to give up a TD on defense this year.
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Oh no...I totally won't post my opinion now. Thank you for informing me.
Your 2-0 is just as good as Tennessee's 0-2. Bottom 10 team, at best is no worse than the seahawks, jags, or bungles. at worst, the team is right above the browns, the rams and the lions.

Wait. THATS EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE!?

NO WAY.

Now, on the other hand. Tennessee is WAY too high. WAAAAY too high, mostly because their 'pro bowl' secondary is a bunch of ****. Without the same type of pressure, mostly provided by the ineptitude of Chuck Cecil (again), this problem is equal parts overrating the talent and poor playcalling.
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Where would you guys place Denver now? 3-0, Cincinatti has beaten two legit teams in the past two weeks(yeah we got lucky to beat them, but we controlled the game until the last drive proving at worst, we can hang with the team that beat PIT and GB), Oakland looked competitive against San Diego and we rolled them. I think the 15-20 range is a good spot as of now.
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