Week 3 Thoughts

[Saints 4 Lyfe]

Originally Posted by MetSox17

What Tony Romo are you referring to?

the one that falls apart in december and the playoffs?




i kid i kid

[FuzzyGopher]

• Jason Campbell is a bust. I have no idea why no one comes out and says it, but he is a definite bust. He doesn't have it whatsoever, period. Maybe he'll be a good back-up in the NFL, at best. For all the current flak the Redskins are getting for their constant changes, they most definitely need to change the quarterback this offseason when they hire a new head coach, offensive coordinator, and quarterbacks coach. It's not about change for change's sake, it's time to end the failed experiment (Campbell + Jim Zorn aka Dead Man Walking) and try to get it right with the next attempt.

You should come on down to D.C. It's all the radio stations and papers talked about in pre-season, and it's all they are talking about now. After Zorn, Campbell is probably the most hated man in Washingotn.

[LizardState]

Embarrassments from the wk:

• Brady Quinn -- Welcome back to riding the pine.
  
• Jason Campbell -- Almost singlehandedly broke the Lions 16-game losing streak
  
• Bobby Carpenter -- Can't tackle your grandmother
  
• Vikings FG team -- Walk them thru it again, it's all about blocking the rushers
  
• Carolina DBs missed tackles -- See Carpenter comment, above
  
• Jake Delhomme -- clinging to the Turnover King crown with 17 of them since the 08 playoff loss
  
• Entire Rams team -- The Sheep are neck in neck with Cleveland for the #1 pick next April

[Jughead10]

Originally Posted by LizardState

Embarrassments from the wk:

• Brady Quinn -- Welcome back to riding the pine.
• Jason Campbell -- Almost singlehandedly broke the Lions 16-game losing streak
• Bobby Carpenter -- Can't tackle your grandmother
• Vikings FG team -- Walk them thru it again, it's all about blocking the rushers
• Carolina DBs missed tackles -- See Carpenter comment, above
• Jake Delhomme -- clinging to the Turnover King crown with 17 of them since the 08 playoff loss
• Entire Rams team -- The Sheep are neck in neck with Cleveland for the #1 pick next April

Might as well add Derek Anderson, arguably worse than Quinn, and the entire Bucs offense, for not breaking 90 yards of total offense on a Giants D that was not even close to full strength.

[bigbluedefense]

I keep hearing Martellus Bennett this, Martellus Bennett that, but let's be honest guys, he hasn't done a damn thing this season.

Id argue that Steve Smith cost the Panthers the game. He was shut down all game, and on that pick 6, he quit on his route, thats why it got intercepted. That pick 6 was NOT Dellhomme's fault, thats all Steve Smith.

6 minutes to go, youre down 6, they couldve pushed the ball downfield and maybe scored the game winning touchdown. Instead, Smith who was acting like a baby all game, quits on the play, and seals the game for the Cowboys.

Inexcusable.

That said, it wouldve been a complete collapse by the Cowboys if they lost that game.

Also, going back to that game, Ron Meeks is terrible. Absolutely terrible. Its very obvious that to stop the Cowboys offense, you have to pack the box with 8 guys, sell out against the run, and blitz Romo like hell while pressing his WRs.

But they kept running a Tim Lewis'esque soft scheme that just begged Dallas to score on them.

[bsaza2358]

I agree... I nearly lost a fantasy week and cost myself a point in my pick em league on that Pick 6. BAH!

[LizardState]

I keep hearing Martellus Bennett this, Martellus Bennett that, but let's be honest guys, he hasn't done a damn thing this season.

He done a lot, he's looked completely confused & inept in 2 of 3 games this season. I was going to add him to the list but ran out of steam. But if Dallas is going to cut a guy before October, it's got to be Bobby Carpenter.

[TitleTown088]

Originally Posted by *** Ork Wang

I like how no one bashes Cutler anymore

Ill be glad to if you'd like.

[yo123]

Originally Posted by LizardState

Embarrassments from the wk:

• Brady Quinn -- Welcome back to riding the pine.
  
• Jason Campbell -- Almost singlehandedly broke the Lions 16-game losing streak
  
• Bobby Carpenter -- Can't tackle your grandmother
  
• Vikings FG team -- Walk them thru it again, it's all about blocking the rushers
  
• Carolina DBs missed tackles -- See Carpenter comment, above
  
• Jake Delhomme -- clinging to the Turnover King crown with 17 of them since the 08 playoff loss
  
• Entire Rams team -- The Sheep are neck in neck with Cleveland for the #1 pick next April

Mark Roman has to be one there.

[TitleTown088]

Originally Posted by *** Ork Wang

Why would you take Beason over Willis ?I hope you know im kidding

Because he plays for the Panthers. Duh.

Originally Posted by njx9

it's tough to bash a guy who's beating godawful teams (i'm not talking about week 2).

By the plural " teams" do you really mean singular "team"? He's only beaten one team aside from Pitt.

[Xenos]

Originally Posted by *** Ork Wang

I like how no one bashes Cutler anymore

He'll come around. Until he shows me that he can last the entire season with some consistency in his performance, then he'll always have that perennial loser tag hanging over him.

[bsaza2358]

My take on Beason vs. Willis: Both play excellent in run and pass coverage. Willis tends to get more publicity because he was the best LB on the 49ers when they weren't good. Beason is quite underrated at this stage compared to Willis. Willis is also getting more publicity these days because he plays for a HOF MLB as his coach, and his team's D is much improved and is helping the 49ers win games.

I doubt Beason is going to get a lot of recognition this year because Carolina is a bit sunk...

[bsaza2358]

Cutler has never been a winning QB anywhere he's been. He has a ton of talent, but he hasn't really proven it consistently. The move to the Bears basically gives him zero excuses. He has performed well the last 2 weeks, but that doesn't mean a whole lot yet. If he continues to play at this level, I think he will eventually shed that tag. As of now, he is still young and inconsistent, but in terms of physical ability, he might be the most talented QB in the league...

[dolphinfan2k5]

Originally Posted by Geo

• Speaking of the Dolphins, I am not a believer in their (puppet) head coach Tony Sparano. I don't think he's a good head coach, really. He might even be as bad as Eric Mangini, although at least Sparano has a really good offensive coordinator.

I would LOVE to hear your reasoning for this. I have to disagree with you on this 100%. Dan Henning has been calling absolutely terrible games so far this season, and many of the well-informed fans agree that he has been one of the main reasons we are 0-3. If you want proof, go watch from 3:30 left in the fourth quarter against the Colts. We started off the drive calling two draw plays, which took about a minute and a half and one of our timeouts (doesn't seem possible, I know, but apparently it is), then we continued the rest of the two-minute drive with play-action on almost every play. Who is that fooling? I don't understand the logic behind that at all, it makes me mad just thinking about it. Takes time away from the QB making his reads because his back is to the field. Ridiculous. Credit him for the Wildcat if you want, which is doing great in Miami this year at 7.5 yards per play, but that is really David Lee, and Ronnie Brown's incredible execution of it.

Not only that but his play calling just reaks of fear. We don't push the ball deep EVER (blame that on Pennington if you want, but the first play of the game for the Chargers was a deep ball to Ginn that he was open on, but Pennington overthrew him). We are constantly settling for field goals as well, despite the fact that we have the best 3rd down completion percentage in the NFL (at least before this week, idk anymore) and we are 3/3 on 4th downs.

I don't understand you comparing Sparano to Mangini at all. I've never heard a player utter a bad word about him. Most of the players love him, despite the fact that he's one of the toughest coaches in the NFL.

[bigbluedefense]

If we're speaking of underrated ILBs, to me, the most unappreciated MIKE is easily David Harris.

David Harris in my eyes, is better than Patrick Willis.

He's played like it thus far in his career, the only reason why he doesn't get the recognition that Willis gets is because he doesn't have the workout numbers that Willis has.

But Harris is the best 3-4 ILB in the game, arguably the best inside backer in the league.

[bsaza2358]

I would have said that Stewart Bradley was underrated, but he is on IR... Boo!

Yes, Harris is a very good player. He is around the ball a lot. Ryan will get a lot out of him, and we could see him in the Pro Bowl this year because of the Jets' record and more media coverage of him.

[bigbluedefense]

Originally Posted by bsaza2358

I would have said that Stewart Bradley was underrated, but he is on IR... Boo!

Yes, Harris is a very good player. He is around the ball a lot. Ryan will get a lot out of him, and we could see him in the Pro Bowl this year because of the Jets' record and more media coverage of him.

I was pimping Bradley all offseason.

Trust me, I feel your pain with Kenny Phillips :(

Harris was a beast before Rex Ryan came to town.

[CC.SD]

If you want to talk about underrated 3-4 ILBs, let me know if you know who Stephen Cooper is without looking it up. :D

I agree on Harris though, and this guy has been producing like gangbusters since day 1. Willis>Beason.

[bsaza2358]

Harris was a major reason why the Jets chose to trade Vilma a few years back. The guy is just a playmaker.

Yeah, imagine how good the Eagles/Giants games would be with everyone at full strength...

[Rosebud]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

If we're speaking of underrated ILBs, to me, the most unappreciated MIKE is easily David Harris.

David Harris in my eyes, is better than Patrick Willis.

He's played like it thus far in his career, the only reason why he doesn't get the recognition that Willis gets is because he doesn't have the workout numbers that Willis has.

But Harris is the best 3-4 ILB in the game, arguably the best inside backer in the league.

Harris is a stud, but he can't even touch Willis or Beason for that matter as a cover backer. Now he's as good against the run as Beason and as good of a pass rusher as Willis but he's a small notch below both as willis is a tad better at blowing up the run while Beason is a more explosive pass rusher. That said I'd gladly take him on our team and I wouldn't be shocked to see him in the playoffs.

[tjsunstein]

Originally Posted by CC.SD

If you want to talk about underrated 3-4 ILBs, let me know if you know who Stephen Cooper is without looking it up. :D

I agree on Harris though, and this guy has been producing like gangbusters since day 1. Willis>Beason.

Kevin Burnett hasn't been too bad for you guys either. Good sign so far.

[no bare feet]

Originally Posted by njx9

*yawn*

yup, there have been just LOADS of qbs throughout nfl history who've 'won' (feel free to define that silly description however you'd like) in spite of one of the worst defenses in the nfl. in fact, i'm sure you can name... 1? maybe?

how about teams with no defense AND no running game?

i keep waiting for someone to put together a "cutler can't win" criticism that isn't mind-numbingly stupid, but it just never happens.

I wrote up a 750 word essay of how Cutler can't win then I saw the 'isn't mind-numblingly stupid' part and declined to submit it.

[JT Jag]

Fun fact: Relatively unheralded Jaguars linebacker Justin Durant is on pace for 149 tackles (123 solo) and five forced fumbles this year.

He has led the team in tackles every week so far.

[The Unseen]

Durant is teh beeeasst. We have a nice young LB corps, but they seem to have problems in coverage.

[Shiver]

Wayne Gandy was terrible three years ago in Atlanta. He's still in the NFL? Amazing...