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Old 09-30-2009, 05:26 PM    (permalink
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IMO they're still a DT, ILB, & DB away from the franchise's 1st SB.
Edit: IMO they're still a DT, ILB not named Vilma, & DB not named Darren Sharper away from the franchise's 1st SB. <--fixed it

Speaking of which has Roman Harper come back to his top rookie form yet after his knee injury?

That's achievable, maybe one more draft & one more offseason of free agency. The Saints in the SB < 10 yrs. after Katrina would be an epic comeback story, they were at death's door & about 2 steps from moving to San Antonio. And Payton was Coach of the Yr before for a good reason.

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Why would Sean Payton get coach of the year? He hasn't changed his game plan or his performance, all he did was take a pay cut so someone else could be hired.

Rex Ryan is far and away the leader, with Singletary working hard to keep up.
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Sanchez for OROY! Viva Sanchez!
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Miami has averaged around seven yards per play in the Wild Cat formation so far this year. I wouldn't say it's done just yet.
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Edit: IMO they're still a DT, ILB not named Vilma, & DB not named Darren Sharper away from the franchise's 1st SB. <--fixed it

Speaking of which has Roman Harper come back to his top rookie form yet after his knee injury?

That's achievable, maybe one more draft & one more offseason of free agency. The Saints in the SB < 10 yrs. after Katrina would be an epic comeback story, they were at death's door & about 2 steps from moving to San Antonio. And Payton was Coach of the Yr before for a good reason.
what is the point of having 2 ilb in a 4-3? but outside of that (just chance the i in an o and all saints fans will agree with you, fujita and shanle on the outside is marginal and I think we can all agree on that).
Roman Harper has been okay and has grown already and will grow further into greg williams' system but he remains a liability in coverage imo.

I agree with you on the latter part however. Sean Payton frustrates me like crazy sometimes cuz he looks like he is playing madden but outside that he has done a great job. His best feat (imo) is that players want to play for him. He gets the right vets into town partially just because he is a likeable but still tough enough coach. he is someone most people want to play for.

besides that: saints football = sexy ;)
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Even if I didn't already love him, i would still know that Sanchez is officially a lock for OROY. It would take a comet at this point to derail that train. Is that a mixed metaphor? A comet COULD conceivably derail a train.
You'd need a magic bullet to stop that motorcade?
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I'm not sure Denver would give McDaniels coach of the year.
McDaniels is a good example of how hard it is to overturn a bad first impression. If his new defense holds up for the rest of the season, then he EASILY wins coach of the year.
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I hate to tell you this but Rex Ryan has already won it.
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The Saints seem like as good a contender as any this season, I don't think there are any super complete and dominant teams.
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Miami has averaged around seven yards per play in the Wild Cat formation so far this year. I wouldn't say it's done just yet.
But Ronnie Brown didn't put up 6 TD's with it in a single game this season dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, unless I'm completely misremembering, that's why people fell in love with the wildcat, and now they have some ridiculous expectations (like somehow the formation was created to score TD's on every single play or something).
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He's clearly an asshole and probably a racist.
But he's a great grandfather according to the announcers at todays OAK vs NYG game, they kept talking about it and I was loling.
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But he's a great grandfather according to the announcers at todays OAK vs NYG game, they kept talking about it and I was loling.
I beat he wears a whistle to sunday brunch in the offseason and "teaches" his grandkids how to properly carry their plates high and tight to their body so no one can jar them loose and make a mess.
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I beat he wears a whistle to sunday brunch in the offseason and "teaches" his grandkids how to properly carry their plates high and tight to their body so no one can jar them loose and make a mess.
I feel bad for Chris Snee :(
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Snee's a big boy, he can take some physical abuse for forgetting were to put the salad fork.
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MVP: Peyton Manning
Offensive Player: Drew Brees
Defensive Player: Jared Allen
Offensive Rookie: Mark Sanchez
Defensive Rookie: Rey Maualuga
Coach of the Year: Josh McDaniels
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I'm kind of surprised the two rookie 5-0 head coaches aren't getting any votes for Coach of the Year up to this point.
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MVP-Peyton Manning; It would take something monumental to stop him now. 5 straight 300 yd games, 5 and 0 record and he's Peyton Manning. Call it a lock.

OPOTY-Peyton Manning; Currently on pace for 5264 yards, 38 TDs with only 13 INTs.

DPOTY-Patrick Willis; All world talent who does everything brilliantly. Only thing that will stop him is he is playing in the NFC West at the minute.

OROTY-Mark Sanchez; I would give it to Percy Harvin personally but Sanchez looks like he could lead his team to the playoffs, and with the exception of the Saints game is playing well.

DROTY-Rey Maualuga; Probably between him and James Laurinaitis and while Laurinaitis has better stats as of now Maualuga has more impact plays and plays on a better defense.

Comeback Player-Tom Brady; As I said at the start of the year, all Brady has to do is come back and not get hurt to win this award.

Coach of the Year-Brad Childress; This probably should go to Josh McDaniels as of now but the media will love the fact that Childress made the ballsy move to take Favre and Harvin. We all know about the Favre story but don't forget that apparently a lot of teams had taken Harvin off the board. Those two moves are looking pretty good as of now.
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You're wrong if you think Brady's a lock for CBPOTY. Him and the Patriots are playing like ****, and Cedric Benson is leading the NFL in rushing. I thought it was him going against bad defenses... then he went ape **** on the Steelers and Ravens. He's a stud again. Yay.
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There's that guy named Carson Palmer who's not doing so bad too. Oh and that Osi Umenyora is doing pretty good. I personally think the record-setting season Brady had the year prior to his injury might hinder his chances at CBPOTB.
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I don't see how Cedric Benson can be comeback player of the year. He played the last 12 games last year and would've gone for approx 1000 yards if he played all 16.

I also disagree that the Patriots are playing like ****. They aren't playing as well as they were two years ago but if they go to the playoffs I still he think Brady wins it.

As for Carson Palmer, he is pedestrian most of the game then plays well in the last 5 minutes. Not that that's a bad thing if they continue to win games. Plus that INT that Ed Reed got was horrible on his part
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I'd just like to point out to some people (JBond) that Peyton Manning is playing extremely well with the likes of Pierre Garçon, Austin Collie, and the 29th ranked running game in the NFL. But mainly just wanted to point out how well Garçon and Collie are doing.
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