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Old 09-30-2009, 08:14 PM    (permalink
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1. Rodgers
2. Cullen Jenkins
3. Greg jennings
4. Daryn Colledge
5. Nick Collins.


* I left Woodson out because its not fair to put him amongst mortals.
What has Jennings done that makes him so much more important than Donald Driver. Jennings has made some big plays but Driver is the consistent threat who Rogers can rely on getting open in a clutch situation.
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What has Jennings done that makes him so much more important than Donald Driver. Jennings has made some big plays but Driver is the consistent threat who Rogers can rely on getting open in a clutch situation.
He's been an awesome decoy by taking the coverage off of Driver. He also caught the game winner vs the Bears to open the season. When he doesn't record a catch; we don't win. (See Week 2) The other two games, he's had over 100 yards recieving.
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Charles Woodson for the Packers.

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Drew Brees, but Darren Sharper deserves a mention, he's making plays and has provided leadership to the defense.
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Charles Woodson for the Packers.

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Because a Vikings fan just saying Adrian Peterson would be so insightful...
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For Minnesota, it is obviously Adrian Peterson, but I think some other players deserve credit, so:

1) Kevin Williams---Jared Allen is the better player, but Williams has played better so far this season.

2) Antoine Winfield---His run support and tackling ability has been the best I have ever seen from him in his tenure at Minnesota. What he does for his size and age is just unreal.

3) Jared Allen---Struggled against Joe Thomas but started to turn his game on against Detroit and San Fran, it should only get better.


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It's gotta be Ben Roethlisberger. The defense is still effective without Polamalu, but what happens to that team if Ben goes down with injury?

No running game to speak of and hits and all, he's making plays. If Ben Roethlisberger gets hurt, and at the rate he's taking hits, he will, the Steelers are boned.
Ben will get hurt, he does every year, and we win games when our back-up plays. Our defense hasn't played fine giving up two game winning drives.
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Ben will get hurt, he does every year, and we win games when our back-up plays. Our defense hasn't played fine giving up two game winning drives.
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Ben will get hurt, he does every year, and we win games when our back-up plays. Our defense hasn't played fine giving up two game winning drives.
Agreed. It's no coincidence that the Steelers lost both games that Polamalu did not play.
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Agreed. It's no coincidence that the Steelers lost both games that Polamalu did not play.
Yup. And I'm not one to overrate Polamalu, I thought we'd be fine, but we obviously are not.
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Felix :(.

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Maybe the entire O-line. The specialize in moving humans with great force.
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When your winless nobody deserves the team mvp. But if I had to choose, it would be Ronnie Brown.
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Charles Woodson for the Packers.

Anyone listing more than one player is lame.


As for Woodson ( Hallowed be thy Name.) being the most valuable on the Packers, that's not right. The Packers can win without Woodson, they're effed without Rodgers.

As for the second part... Who cares?
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Maybe the entire O-line. The specialize in moving humans with great force.
Beat me to it.

Although if i couldn't say the entire o-line and just had to single someone out, i'd say The Hotel Adams. He has been beasting this season and is looking just about as good as he ever has in both pass protection and run support. But the whole offensive line is playing great.
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Beat me to it.

Although if i couldn't say the entire o-line and just had to single someone out, i'd say The Hotel Adams. He has been beasting this season and is looking just about as good as he ever has in both pass protection and run support. But the whole offensive line is playing great.
Yeah. I've been giving Flozell a lot of **** lately, but he's been stellar this year. Aside from his usual FS.
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1. DeSean Jackson- 3 touchdown in three games, all 3 of which btw are over 60 yards. So far he has 12 receptions, 259 yards, 21.6 YPC, 2 Touchdowns, 418 all purpose yards, 307 yards from scrimmage and 1 85 yard TD punt return. He leads the NFL in in punt return average, he leads the NFL in YPC with receivers with 10 catches or more and was name the NFL's special teams player of the month. He is absolutely beasting.

2. Brent Celek- Who is the best TE in the business? According the stats, his name is Brent Celek. He has caught more than 80% of passes thrown to him and he is constantly open. He has 22 catches for 245 yards and 2 touchdowns. That doesn't account for the fact that he is being used in blocking quite often to help Winston Justice.

3. Trent Cole- He is doing fantastic right now, constant pressure off of the edge and he is stuffing the run. He is clearly the Eagles best defensive player.

4. Jason Peters- Wow. Who would of thought that when Andy Reid said he traded for the best LT in football, he might have been right? After a horrendous pre-season he has come out and completely owned the left side. He has given up one sack, and it was flukey. He is fantastic in run blocking, he gets out on screen passes better than any tackle I've ever seen and he is keeping the QB clean. The QB has to worry about pressure from all other spots on the line, but whether it is Kolb or McNabb, they can trust that no one is getting by the massive #71.
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4. Jason Peters- Wow. Who would of thought that when Andy Reid said he traded for the best LT in football, he might have been right? After a horrendous pre-season he has come out and completely owned the left side. He has given up one sack, and it was flukey. He is fantastic in run blocking, he gets out on screen passes better than any tackle I've ever seen and he is keeping the QB clean. The QB has to worry about pressure from all other spots on the line, but whether it is Kolb or McNabb, they can trust that no one is getting by the massive #71.
Joe Thomas is the best tackle in football

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As for Woodson ( Hallowed be thy Name.) being the most valuable on the Packers, that's not right. The Packers can win without Woodson, they're effed without Rodgers.

As for the second part... Who cares?
There's a difference between MVP and who would hurt the most to lose.
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Eli, although one could argue Corey Webster's dominance deserves this title, I just can't imagine how much worse we'd be if you replaced Eli with a league average starter, our running game has stuttered and you can lay the Dallas win almost squarely on eli's shoulders as our run d was torched and our rushing game stuffed in their stadium opener.
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