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Default What is the legacy of Randy Moss?

Is he the best WR of all time?

Receptions 855
Receiving Yards 13,342
Receiving TDs 135

NFL records and statistics

Most receiving touchdowns as a rookie: 17
Third in receiving yards by a rookie, with 1,313 (trailing Anquan Boldin and Bill Groman)
Moss has caught 13 or more TDs in a season five times; only Terrell Owens and Jerry Rice have done so more often.
Moss has caught 17 or more TDs in a season three times; no other player has ever done so.
Moss has averaged at least one receiving TD per game played in four different seasons: 1998 (17 TDs in 16 games), 2003 (17 in 16), 2004 (13 in 13), and 2007 (23 in 16); no other player has ever done so.[39]
He had back-to-back 100 catch seasons, in 2002 and 2003. He, along with Wes Welker, Sterling Sharpe, Jerry Rice, Herman Moore, Cris Carter, Marvin Harrison, and Rod Smith are the only receivers to accomplish this feat.
At the end of the 2007 season, Moss averaged 12.4 receiving TDs per season, an NFL record.
He had 1,200+ yards receiving in each of his first 6 seasons, setting an NFL record.
In 2003, Moss became the second player in NFL history to average 100 yards and one TD per game in a 16 NFL game season, scoring 17 touchdowns and 1,632 yards.
In 2007, Moss became the only player in NFL history to record four 100+ yard games in his first four games with a new team.
Moss has eclipsed the 1,000 yard receiving mark 8 times in his career. He is tied for 3rd all-time in that statistic.
Also in 2007, Moss set a record with 16 touchdowns in his first 10 games with a new team.
On December 29, 2007, he set the NFL record for most touchdown receptions in a regular season, with 23. The record was previously held by Jerry Rice who scored 22 touchdowns in a 12 game strike season.
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4-time All-Pro selection. [40]
NFL Record, 23 Receiving TD's in a season.(2007)
Only player in NFL history to record 1,200+ receiving yards in his first six seasons.
Youngest player in NFL history to record his 120th receiving touchdown. (30 years, 313 days)
Is second on the Minnesota Vikings all time receiving TD list with 90. Cris Carter holds the record with 110 receiving scores.
Caught his 100th touchdown pass in 2006 against San Francisco (on a pass he caught with his legs), and he is the 7th player to have 100+ touchdown receptions. He was the youngest to accomplish this at 29 years and 235 days.
Holds the record for most touchdowns in Minnesota Vikings playoff history with 8.
59 career 100 yard games - tied for 2nd all-time.
Has a 15.8 yards per catch average for his career.
Has completed 4 of 8 passes for 106 yards and 2 touchdowns, with 1 interception, giving him a 95.8 passer rating.
Only player to catch 90+ touchdown passes, return a punt for a touchdown, and throw 2 touchdown passes.
Has played on the two highest scoring teams (for a single season) in NFL history: 2007 Patriots (589 points) & the 1998 Vikings (556 points)
Had a career-high 12 receptions for 204 yards against the Chicago Bears, at Soldier Field, on November 14, 1999 in a 27-24 overtime win.
Holds the Viking record for most 100 yard receiving games with 41.
Had a Pro Bowl record nine receptions for 212 yards in the 1999 season's Pro Bowl played on February 6, 2000. NFC won in a shootout, 51-31, marking the highest scoring output in Pro Bowl History.
Caught a career high four touchdowns at Buffalo (all were in the first half). (Nov. 18, 2007)
Caught three touchdowns in six different games: at Dallas (Nov. 26, 1998), a 46–36 victory; vs. Chicago (Dec. 6, 1998), a 48–22 victory; at Detroit (Oct. 1, 2000), a 31-24 victory; vs. New York (November 19, 2001) a 28-16 victory; vs. San Francisco (Sep. 28, 2003), a 35–7 victory; vs. Buffalo (November 18, 2007), a 56–10 victory.



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Is he the best WR of all time?
No, he is not. He is however (imo) the best receiver of his generation and possibly the most talented receiver of all time.
I can go into a whole oration about this but it pretty much sums it up.
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definitly the most talented w.r. ever (calvin johnson is VERY close)...if he was with brady or manning his entire career he would own every record.
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One of the all time greatest talents. Thats where it ends for me.
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When he's at the top of his game, nobody I have seen has ever been better. However, consistency matters and Rice was WAY WAY more consistent than Moss. Rice was also never a distraction and never dissapeared in big games like Moss has at times.
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Second greatest receiver ever, best deep threat ever.

Might open up more for his teammates than any other receiver, being on the two highest scoring teams of all times does say something.
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Here's my argument for Moss No. 1 all time.

A great receiver makes his team better. No receiver has done that more than Moss. Like Saints-Tigers said, being on the two highest scoring teams of all time does say something.
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What rank were the Raiders of all time when he was on that team????
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What rank were the Raiders of all time when he was on that team????
Not even Randy Moss can save the Raiders.
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Randy Moss makes team elite from good, not elite from bottom of the league terrible.
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I know no one really pays attention to his blocking but some people that talk about Rice is exactly that. He was a good blocker.
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I hate Randy Moss personally but I will never annoint him number one. But dude is nice!
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One of the best ever but it's hard to take him over Jerry Rice.
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I hate Randy Moss personally but I will never annoint him number one. But dude is nice!
where is the contrast here? lol
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Best ever? No One of the best ever? Yes

Like others have said maybe the mosted gifted WR ever but that doesn't make him the best ever Jerry Rice end of thread.

To me WR is the only position in the game that you can say 100% that one guy is for sure the best ever there is a debate and for good reason with the rest.
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lol you know BOE usually when you say 'but' you follow it up with something contrary to the first part of the statement.
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hmm who hacked into my account

im gonna try to explain that but so get ready to laugh.
I hate Randy Moss personally(meaning i ******* hate the guy but i will never annoint him number one..ohh **** i ******* suck **** me **** stick but I will never annoint him number one. But dude is nice!
nevermind k guys?
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hmm who hacked into my account

im gonna try to explain that but so get ready to laugh.
I hate Randy Moss personally(meaning i ******* hate the guy but i will never annoint him number one..ohh **** i ******* suck **** me **** stick but I will never annoint him number one. But dude is nice!
nevermind k guys?
definitely nevermind definitely
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yeah i must have type the wrong word maybe 'so' fits better than 'but'
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1. Jerry Rice
2. Randy Moss

And it's debateable from there but you have to have these guys in this order to begin any credible list.
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I don't think he's better than Rice, but he's pretty easily #2 in my opinion.
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He is my clear cut #2 but that time in Oakland really hurts my image of him, so many jogged routes.
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he still jogs routes and has a sense of entitlement which is another reason i'd never put him in the top spot
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