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Old 10-20-2009, 09:18 PM    (permalink
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Still for Flacco's development if Mason retires at least 2 or 3 real veteran receivers must be brought in. You can't rely on even a first round rookie WR to start or even necessarily produce consistently in his first year. The Ravens need to grab someone like Antonio Bryant or Kevin Walter.
I realize that, I'm just saying it's looking like WR will be our thinnest spot going into the offseason. If we were to rely on mostly rookie receivers our passing game would be terrible. Personally I would prefer a guy like Perrish Cox in the first, maybe a TE depending on who's there/where we pick. I don't see us going OLB/DE too early this year, but it's really early.
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I don't know, this could very well be the year we actually go WR in round one. All five of the receivers on the active roster are on 1 year deals/in the last year of their deal. BPA is always the way to go, but when you literally have no wide-outs I don't think you can ignore it. I expect at least Washington to be back, but IDK about the others.
i think w.r. and c.b. are dead even as far as needs go...if bryant or benn are available then yea w.r. should be a first round pick but if they're not then i would take haden or cox before reaching on a w.r. that could very well be there round 2 in this ultra deep (at all positions) draft.
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The real Ravens big board at the moment would go as followed.

Need #1: Cornerback:
Webb should be a starter next year because Carr, Foxworth, and Washington haven't been solid this season. They're inconsistent and get burned quite often. The most impressive cornerback prospects this far go as followed.
- Robert Johnson, 6'2 200, Utah
- Myron Lewis, 6'2 205, Vanderbilt
- Brian Jackson, 6'1 200, Oklahoma
- Jerome Murphy, 6'1 185, USF
We need a big solid corner who won't get pussies around by bigger receivers. This should be our #1 draft need if we don't target a corner in the off season. There's some big name free agents out there.
- Corey Webster, Giants.
- Cedric Griffin, Vikings.
- Terrence Newman, Cowboys

Need #2: Wide Receiver:
Yeah, Clayton's playing well. He did drop that pass though. Mason is still the best wide out on our team, but he's getting ready to retire. Kelly Washington is playing really well, but Demetrius just can't seem to get it together. We need a sure handed, route running, wide out, that can help our short game.
-Eric Decker, Minnesota
- Jordan Shipley, Texas

the only free agents that come to mind are.
- Vincent Jackson, Chargers.
- Antonio Bryant, Bucs.
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The real Ravens big board at the moment would go as followed.

Need #1: Cornerback:
Webb should be a starter next year because Carr, Foxworth, and Washington haven't been solid this season. They're inconsistent and get burned quite often. The most impressive cornerback prospects this far go as followed.
- Robert Johnson, 6'2 200, Utah
- Myron Lewis, 6'2 205, Vanderbilt
- Brian Jackson, 6'1 200, Oklahoma
- Jerome Murphy, 6'1 185, USF
We need a big solid corner who won't get pussies around by bigger receivers. This should be our #1 draft need if we don't target a corner in the off season. There's some big name free agents out there.
- Corey Webster, Giants.
- Cedric Griffin, Vikings.
- Terrence Newman, Cowboys

Need #2: Wide Receiver:
Yeah, Clayton's playing well. He did drop that pass though. Mason is still the best wide out on our team, but he's getting ready to retire. Kelly Washington is playing really well, but Demetrius just can't seem to get it together. We need a sure handed, route running, wide out, that can help our short game.
-Eric Decker, Minnesota
- Jordan Shipley, Texas

the only free agents that come to mind are.
- Vincent Jackson, Chargers.
- Antonio Bryant, Bucs.
If they don't re-sign him, then the discussion begins and ends with him! We throw whatever we have to throw at him to get him here!
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If they don't re-sign him, then the discussion begins and ends with him! We throw whatever we have to throw at him to get him here!
Yes, yes indeed. I really don't think they will let him go, but Jackson would be the perfect fit at WR for what we need. Perfect. I'd imagine the Ravens would be an attractive option for a FA WR too.
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Id kill to have Corey Webster on the Ravens. He is a top 5 CB in the NFL IMO.
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well it also depends on if we get a CBA, the rule is if you are in the NFL for less then 6 years you are a RFA. But if VIncent Jackson does hit the FA market if we dont give him a blank check I may very well be on the hate ozzie bandwagon.
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well it also depends on if we get a CBA, the rule is if you are in the NFL for less then 6 years you are a RFA. But if VIncent Jackson does hit the FA market if we dont give him a blank check I may very well be on the hate ozzie bandwagon.
If he does hit the FA market, there will most likely be a new CBA and salary cap so we might not have enough $$$ to give him a blank check. If McGahee is cut we might be able to find enough room, but I don't know. He would probably get something like what Roddy White got this offseason/early preseason.
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If we cut Wilis don't we still have to pay him? If so we should try to trade him. I don't care for what either.
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i think there is a clause in his contract where we can let him loose w/o paying a ton of $. I am not 100% sure.
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If we cut Wilis don't we still have to pay him? If so we should try to trade him. I don't care for what either.
Not his full contract. If we cut him after this season and there is still a salary cap, it would be a pretty small amount. I think it would only count about $1 million for next, but I'm not positive.
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he would be a great pick up but i wouldnt throw him a blank check....honestly id rather have dez or benn.
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its always tough with rookie receivers. A lot of time, the talented players aren't polished enough to contribute right away.
Bryant and Benn are both great talent, but I think we need a guy who has proven himself in the NFL already.
Vincent Jackson would be amazing.
Corey Webster would also be amazing for our secondary.
We need a young, explosive, route-running, powerful receiver.
Vincent Jackson, or Brandon Marshall would be ridiculous.
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he would be a great pick up but i wouldnt throw him a blank check....honestly id rather have dez or benn.
I'd rather have a proven NFL WR then take a chance on a rookie WR, especially with Ozzie drafting for us. His WR picks haven't worked out at all for the Ravens. That said since there is no way the Chargers let Jackson go, Ill take Dez Bryant or Eric Decker!!!
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Eric Decker's out for the year now so we'll have to wait and see what kind of shape he's in for the draft.
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I like Decker but I don't think he's right for this team at least not in the first round. He projects as a #2, a Mushin Muhammad type possession receiver. What Joe Flacco needs though is an explosive play maker and vertical threat, that is Dez Bryant. Matt Ryan wouldn't be anything like he is now if he didn't have that deep threat in Roddy White. Now if the Ravens could get Dez in the first and Decker in the 2nd than lol the Ravens would be set for the next 10 years.
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great point, Ryan is so lucky to have a elite vertical threat, imagine when Flacco gets one of those players. If Dez isnt at our pick I could see us going TE like that guy from OK. Or D we could use some youth there.
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I like Decker but I don't think he's right for this team at least not in the first round. He projects as a #2, a Mushin Muhammad type possession receiver. What Joe Flacco needs though is an explosive play maker and vertical threat, that is Dez Bryant. Matt Ryan wouldn't be anything like he is now if he didn't have that deep threat in Roddy White. Now if the Ravens could get Dez in the first and Decker in the 2nd than lol the Ravens would be set for the next 10 years.
I agree to an extent, but I really think it depends on where we end up picking. If we are mid 20's, a la 25 or 26, I think Decker would be a great pick, as Im a huge fan of his and I think he can be an extremely solid WR in the NFL, maybe even a #1. That said, Id much prefer one of the bigger more explosive receivers, but I feel as if we pick late they will be all gone. I wouldnt be opposed to going CB in round 1 if we pick late and grabbing someone like Decker in round 2, as odds are he will fall especially with this injury.
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I like Decker but I don't think he's right for this team at least not in the first round. He projects as a #2, a Mushin Muhammad type possession receiver. What Joe Flacco needs though is an explosive play maker and vertical threat, that is Dez Bryant. Matt Ryan wouldn't be anything like he is now if he didn't have that deep threat in Roddy White. Now if the Ravens could get Dez in the first and Decker in the 2nd than lol the Ravens would be set for the next 10 years.
Just want to clarify Im not saying we should take Decker in the first I think we could get Decker in the 3rd personally.
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Assuming we are going to keep mattison and transition to a 43 I could see us taking Brandon Spikes. He can be the leader of the D and play MLB very well. Our LB corp of the future could be WLB-Gooden(he would be amazing there) MLB-Spikes(Ray Lewis like) and then SLB-Ellerbe(he has experience here, is a good thumper and would hav been a 2nd round pick if he didnt get hurt or have that run in w/ the law)
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Assuming we are going to keep mattison and transition to a 43 I could see us taking Brandon Spikes. He can be the leader of the D and play MLB very well. Our LB corp of the future could be WLB-Gooden(he would be amazing there) MLB-Spikes(Ray Lewis like) and then SLB-Ellerbe(he has experience here, is a good thumper and would hav been a 2nd round pick if he didnt get hurt or have that run in w/ the law)
Has Ellerbe played SLB? If so switching to a 4-3 for most of the time in the future seems a lot more likely IMO. IDK about drafting Spikes though, we have far more important needs and we will have Phillips coming back next season. I think we should try to get younger at positions that don't have bright spots for the future, not ones that we already have young talent at.
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IDK if Philllips would have the ability to play 43 MLB, I think he is suited as a pure thumper in a 34. But I remember in Scotts scouting report of ellerbe he said he can play all 3 LB spots.
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Taking Brandon Spikes in Round 1 would be a huge mistake. Not only cause I think hes a fringe first rounder, but because I think Ray has 3-4 good years left in him, and we have much bigger needs.
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yea that depends on what the coaches feel about Ray but i wouldnt be shocked. Mattison recruited him I belive I could see Mattison begging for him or that CB from FL
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