The Official St. Louis Rams 2010 Offseason Discussion Thread - Page 8

tfry · 03-08-2010, 08:02 AM

Robbins - Would his signing be a sign that Bradford is the pick?

Pool - If he can overcome his concussions, he'd be a great signing.

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Originally Posted by holt_bruce81

http://interact.stltoday.com/blogzon...ts-dt-robbins/

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...with-the-rams/

rockio42 · 03-08-2010, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by tfry

Robbins - Would his signing be a sign that Bradford is the pick?

Pool - If he can overcome his concussions, he'd be a great signing.

Robbins is no where near as good as Suh...never has been, never will be but yah it could still be a sign that a QB might be a pick...which scares the crap out of me

freebirdsrams02 · 03-08-2010, 01:09 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4976480

Looks like Robbins is a done deal. So now that we are bringing him in and if the idea is to take a QB in the draft, why not trade down with Tampa at #3 and pick up some extra picks. Plus it will cost a little bit less to pick at 3 then at 1.

rockio42 · 03-08-2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by freebirdsrams02

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4976480

Looks like Robbins is a done deal. So now that we are bringing him in and if the idea is to take a QB in the draft, why not trade down with Tampa at #3 and pick up some extra picks. Plus it will cost a little bit less to pick at 3 then at 1.

I don't want it to influence the pick but with guys like Ryan, Carriker, Scott, and now Robbins it doesn't seem like Suh is as obvious now...Sam Bradford or Jimmy Clausen now becomes a lot more plausible

NGSeiler · 03-08-2010, 02:33 PM

I don't think the Robbins signing has a huge impact on what they do first overall, just like the Feeley signing probably doesn't. Both signings gives the team options, which is what you want going into the pick.

With Feeley on the roster, the Rams are in a better position to cut Bulger and draft a rookie to fight Feeley for the job. Or, they could also keep Bulger w/ Feeley serving as the back-up, and look for their QB either later in this draft or in next year's class.

Adding Robbins means the Rams don't have to spend a high pick on a DT, because they've added depth to the position. But it doesn't mean they won't, because Suh or McCoy would likely supplant Robbins to start next to Ryan, but Robbins gives them better depth, especially since they let some younger tackles go in free agency.

The Rams certainly haven't made up their mind as to what they're doing with their pick, so these moves can't be a clear indication one way or another if the Rams don't even know which way they're going. These two moves give them some options regardless of what direction they go. And that's never a bad thing.

freebirdsrams02 · 03-08-2010, 02:51 PM

The one good thing about Robbins is that he comes from the Giants and he played under Spanguolo. So he know's what to expect and understands the defense. he should be able to help out the younger guys.

stlouisfan37 · 03-08-2010, 06:33 PM

And Fred Robbins has been a hard working, smart player who understands what Spagnuolo wants to do in this defense. Signing him could be as much for having a strong veteran influence on the young players as anything. Now I think we should bring in Antonio Pierce. He could be a great mentor as well as quality insurance behind Laurinitis.

holt_bruce81 · 03-08-2010, 09:51 PM

Maybe the Robbins signing means the end for Carriker. It's a possibility, he doesn't fit our system.

I wouldn't read to much into the signing. Robbins will be a good rotational player, will not effect the draft AT ALL.

holt_bruce81 · 03-08-2010, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by stlouisfan37

And Fred Robbins has been a hard working, smart player who understands what Spagnuolo wants to do in this defense. Signing him could be as much for having a strong veteran influence on the young players as anything. Now I think we should bring in Antonio Pierce. He could be a great mentor as well as quality insurance behind Laurinitis.

As a backup yes. As a starter.....hell no.

bigfreak314 · 03-09-2010, 09:57 AM

Anybody hoping for a Lito Sheppard signing?

freebirdsrams02 · 03-09-2010, 12:01 PM

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Anybody hoping for a Lito Sheppard signing?

Any healthy CB or S would be nice.

KCJ58 · 03-09-2010, 01:34 PM

I dont care much for Lito Sheppard maybe 3-4 years ago but not now, I was kinda hoping Bradley Fletcher could start this year across Bartell see what he can do, but we do need another CB and if we do sign one i think he'll either be the starter or nickle, depending on how person is of course

NGSeiler · 03-09-2010, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bigfreak314

Anybody hoping for a Lito Sheppard signing?

Not really, no.

NGSeiler · 03-09-2010, 02:15 PM

Scott's last three tweets today regarding the Rams and Bradford...

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After going through my notes and doing Sam Bradford's scouting report I am more scared of him than ever. Lot's of warning signs. Tim Couch?
about 1 hours ago via web

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Durability is the big one. System. RT @twoth: What kinds of warning signs? Seems accurate, can make all the throws, and was a winner.
about 1 hours ago via UberTwitter

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Suh, McCoy or Clausen. RT @Play4Blood: So if you ran the Rams draft you'd take Suh 100 times out of 100, am I right?
44 minutes ago via UberTwitter

rockio42 · 03-09-2010, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NGSeiler

Scott's last three tweets today regarding the Rams and Bradford...

I keep wondering why all I see is people mentioning Bradford at #1...since when was Clausen not right along side Bradford in the top QB conversation?

tfry · 03-09-2010, 03:29 PM

Because Bradford is SUPPOSED to be a much more accurate QB and better suited for the WCO.

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Originally Posted by rockio42

I keep wondering why all I see is people mentioning Bradford at #1...since when was Clausen not right along side Bradford in the top QB conversation?

bigfreak314 · 03-09-2010, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tfry

Because Bradford is SUPPOSED to be a much more accurate QB and better suited for the WCO.

Is that really why? I thought Jimmy played in an NFL style offense

holt_bruce81 · 03-09-2010, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rockio42

I keep wondering why all I see is people mentioning Bradford at #1...since when was Clausen not right along side Bradford in the top QB conversation?

Clausen has never been in REAL discussion as a #1 pick. He's vastly overrated.

rockio42 · 03-09-2010, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by holt_bruce81

Clausen has never been in REAL discussion as a #1 pick. He's vastly overrated.

Why? He has proven he can make NFL style throws, especially more so than Bradford, who's hardest throw was a seam or a 5 yard slant...how exactly is Clausen in overrated and Bradford not?

holt_bruce81 · 03-09-2010, 10:23 PM

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Why? He has proven he can make NFL style throws, especially more so than Bradford, who's hardest throw was a seam or a 5 yard slant...how exactly is Clausen in overrated and Bradford not?

What has he done at Notre Dame? As talented as he is shouldn't he of been more successful in college? I know Bradford had more talent around him but a 6-6 season for Notre Dame with talented weapons to throw the ball to.

I don't like his immaturity.

In my eyes he's the Ryan Leaf of this draft. And Bradford is the Peyton Manning.

Good Russ Lande Interview....

http://www.101espn.com/post/40590_th...y_030910/audio

Thinks Bradford is a better prospect than Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Matthew Stafford and Mark Sanchez.

Bradford is the most accurate Quarterback he's graded.

Has Rams taking Bradford, Golden Tate and Jerry Hughes in the first 3 Rounds.

Interesting he says Jonathan Crompton is the 2nd best QB in this draft.

Says Jake Locker right now is no where near what Sam Bradford is

bigfreak314 · 03-10-2010, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by holt_bruce81

Has Rams taking Bradford, Golden Tate and Jerry Hughes in the first 3 Rounds.

Interesting he says Jonathan Crompton is the 2nd best QB in this draft.

Says Jake Locker right now is no where near what Sam Bradford is

Do you think Jerry Hughes is going to last to the 3rd round?

Jonathan Crompton is a HUGE sleeper, he played in an NFL style offense under center most of the time. I think the reason more teams do not talk about him is b/c of the 1st 6 games of the season but he was playing with a shaky OL, shaky WR, and the only thing he had going for him were the 2 beast at RB.

tfry · 03-10-2010, 11:17 AM

I'd be ok with that draft. However, don't you think we need a tall receiver with some size since we already have a speedy option in Donnie Avery?

And I'd be shocked if Hughes lasted until the third round...but then again someone always ends up sliding.

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Originally Posted by holt_bruce81

What has he done at Notre Dame? As talented as he is shouldn't he of been more successful in college? I know Bradford had more talent around him but a 6-6 season for Notre Dame with talented weapons to throw the ball to.

I don't like his immaturity.

In my eyes he's the Ryan Leaf of this draft. And Bradford is the Peyton Manning.

Good Russ Lande Interview....

http://www.101espn.com/post/40590_th...y_030910/audio

Thinks Bradford is a better prospect than Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Matthew Stafford and Mark Sanchez.

Bradford is the most accurate Quarterback he's graded.

Has Rams taking Bradford, Golden Tate and Jerry Hughes in the first 3 Rounds.

Interesting he says Jonathan Crompton is the 2nd best QB in this draft.

Says Jake Locker right now is no where near what Sam Bradford is

freebirdsrams02 · 03-10-2010, 12:41 PM

Any thoughts on Derek Anderson. He would be better than having A.J. Feeley.

rockio42 · 03-10-2010, 03:41 PM

I'm not saying Bradford isn't good, I just don't think there is a huge difference between him and Clausen...right now the majority of experts and mockers have it kinda split 50-50 between who is going first in the draft overall or first to the Rams...I'm just saying Clausen is still a viable option at #1

holt_bruce81 · 03-11-2010, 02:22 AM

Would anyone give up a 5th round pick for Omar Gaither? Rams have two draft picks in the 5th round, so I say why not? He could be a solid Weakside backer for us. Better than what we got.