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Old 02-19-2015, 11:53 PM    (permalink
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Pretty poor lifting as a group compared to a lot of past years.
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D.J. Humphreys sure came in a lot bigger than I thought he would, he could make some money at the Combine.

While LSU OT La'el Collins came in a lot smaller than I believed he was.
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Ereck Flowers is going to go high in the first round. He's 6'6, 329# and did 37 reps in the BP. Can't wait to see how he performs in the agility drills.

I was a bit surprised Scherff only had 23 reps. I know several guys at my gym who can do that with a couple weeks of training. Does he have an unresolved shoulder injury??

Maybe I wasn't paying close attention, but I can't remember a recent combine where so many of the top oline prospects DNP'd on BP, or put up such puny numbers,(28 reps or less).

Not being able to BP 225# 30+ times doesn't mean you can't do a single rep max of 450# or more, but it's still surprising so many of these guys couldn't bang out 30 plus.

The DNP guys unless they're hurt look pathetic.
It's not like with a few more weeks after Indy you're suddenly going to gain 10-15 more reps on your BP.

Does the NFL test prospects for PEDs....AFTER the combine??lol
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Bench press is probably the least important drill at the combine.
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I disagree, you have to have a general baseline with almost everything, knowing what a football player can bench is of course a measure to some degree of strength and it is actually a motion used during the game especially for lineman.

Sure maybe a QB it is not real big deal but for OL and DL, of course it is a big deal and is for all other positions I think it is important as well. Have to divide players some way and bench is one, remember when Boldin had a crazy bench number for a receiver at the combine and yeah right that did not show strength and toughness and prove to be true.


Like these guys, all have pretty long arms, some longer than others but to say the bench number does really standout for some is just not true.

Rob Havenstein 6-7 321 bench 16

Ereck Flowers 6-6 329 bench 37

Corey Robinson 6-7 324 bench 28

Trenton Brown 6-8 355 bench 20


Havenstein is really not impressive with that number being what the worst of the group of those that took part. Then you have Flowers which is crazy impressive for his size and length. Robinson did not do to bad either but Brown was kind of a surprise being that low. Sure longer arms makes it harder but still gives comparison where comparison is needed.
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Agreed, but it's still impressive when someone with long arms can put up good reps. Speaking of which, no one's giving C. Robinson any love for putting up 28 reps with 35 5/8" arms. He's a mid-round guy who I can see starting as a rookie.
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Agreed, but it's still impressive when someone with long arms can put up good reps. Speaking of which, no one's giving C. Robinson any love for putting up 28 reps with 35 5/8" arms. He's a mid-round guy who I can see starting as a rookie.
I provided some love above, I too was impressed with that number for him being so long. Wish he played stronger on the field this last year but big long guys like that get a shot in the NFL at tackle, just look at Seantrel Henderson, 7th round pick and started every game this past year. Hell of a pickup for them.

Still say with the bench press you need the number for all positions really and for lineman it is quite relevant information.
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I provided some love above, I too was impressed with that number for him being so long. Wish he played stronger on the field this last year but big long guys like that get a shot in the NFL at tackle, just look at Seantrel Henderson, 7th round pick and started every game this past year. Hell of a pickup for them.

Still say with the bench press you need the number for all positions really and for lineman it is quite relevant information.
It also gives the pros a good idea of how much a prospect works on his strength training, which is super important at the next level. Still, we have to remember that it is much harder for a guy with long arms to bench press.
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Scherff was surprising low...he can also hang clean 410 pounds, so i am going to go ahead and not question his strength

Flowers though....those are some impressive numbers all around. Could be a guy that not enough people are talking about
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It's also a good measure of their endurance, which again falls into the training.
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Cameron Erving's numbers look really good. I could see him going higher than currently projected.
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Robinson's ability upsets me with how poorly that strength translated onto the field this year for the Gamecocks.
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So far, I'm pretty disappointed in the OL workouts, the top guys look pretty raw and need a lot of work before they will be ready for pro ball. Clemmings and Flowers may have a lot of upside, but they are nowhere near ready to play OT at the next level. So far, Collins of LSU may be the most ready.
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Depends who drafts him and what their needs are. Obviously, he can play OG, but OT might be a bit of a reach.
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Really like Jake Fisher of Oregon. Has good size, can easily gain some weight over time. His speed is good along with his agility. I thought he played with a bit of a mean streak this year and looks like he could easily play on the left side. If he makes it to the second round someone is getting a steal.
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Depends who drafts him and what their needs are. Obviously, he can play OG, but OT might be a bit of a reach.
I always thought he was a decent LT prospect, but man he looked good at center. Weird, you dont see that much
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Really like Jake Fisher of Oregon. Has good size, can easily gain some weight over time. His speed is good along with his agility. I thought he played with a bit of a mean streak this year and looks like he could easily play on the left side. If he makes it to the second round someone is getting a steal.
Outside of Scherff, Jake Fisher is the best plug and play player at the offensive line spot. He doesn't have the upside that Clemmings and Flowers do but Fisher is versatile and will be a 8-10 year pro. I think he's a fringe 1st round prospect
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I really liked the numbers from Fisher and Erving as well. Erving's versatility I love and would take him over a lot of the OTs in this draft(flowers, humperies, schreff only ones over him). Humphries looked very smooth esp after weighing in at 307, (maybe Tyron Smith comp?)

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Outside of Scherff, Jake Fisher is the best plug and play player at the offensive line spot. He doesn't have the upside that Clemmings and Flowers do but Fisher is versatile and will be a 8-10 year pro. I think he's a fringe 1st round prospect
Fisher probably needs to bulk up fsome but he's a smooth athlete. I wouldn't just slot him to the right side either. Sort of reminds me a little of Joe Staley coming out.
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Iowa OL never do well in the bench for whatever reason.

That said, anyone that has watched Scherff knows that his reps on the bench tell you little to nothing regarding his strength or endurance. He probably has incredible lower body strength, and his hand-eye coordination is fantastic.

With regards to Erving, he's always looked the part and I'm guessing he's going to test off the charts. But he looked really bad at tackle this year when he did play there. His versatility is huge, but I would say you are getting a really good center/guard that you can plug in at tackle in an emergency, but no way do you want him playing there full time.
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I really liked the numbers from Fisher and Erving as well. Erving's versatility I love and would take him over a lot of the OTs in this draft(flowers, humperies, schreff only ones over him). Humphries looked very smooth esp after weighing in at 307, (maybe Tyron Smith comp?)

Peat moving looks god awful. Easy to see why he was Nate Orchard's *****.
Always left wanting more with Peat. Not seeing the big attraction there.
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Iowa OL never do well in the bench for whatever reason.

That said, anyone that has watched Scherff knows that his reps on the bench tell you little to nothing regarding his strength or endurance. He probably has incredible lower body strength, and his hand-eye coordination is fantastic.

With regards to Erving, he's always looked the part and I'm guessing he's going to test off the charts. But he looked really bad at tackle this year when he did play there. His versatility is huge, but I would say you are getting a really good center/guard that you can plug in at tackle in an emergency, but no way do you want him playing there full time.
I should have stated I like Erving as a G/C and emergency tackle. If Detroit had him last year he could have went in for Rob Simms at LG and then played RT/RG when there were injuries. Plus he saves a roster spot.
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