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Old 03-18-2010, 08:16 PM    (permalink
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Sam Bradford = taller Kurt Warner
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Sam Bradford = Alex Smith

That's what I said. They both came from spread offenses and had everyone oohing and aahing about their intelligence and their accuracy. I really don't see much of a difference. Both are athletic guys, running 4.7-ish 40s, both played on top-tier teams in mediocre conferences. I'm not necessarily saying Bradford will be a bust; I haven't given up on Alex Smith quite yet. But their profiles are really, really similar.
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Sam Bradford-Chad Pennington
Jimmy Clausen-JP Losman
Tim Tebow- David Garrard/Byron Leftwich/Dallas Clark
Ndamukong Suh- Albert Haynesworth
Gerald McCoy- John Randle
Eric Berry- Aneas Williams
Dez Bryant- Terrell Owens
Russel Okung- D'Brickashaw Ferguson
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I'm telling you, Toby Gerhart is a functional clone of Eddie George,

I predict a very similar career for him, barring any kind of injury.
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That's what I said. They both came from spread offenses and had everyone oohing and aahing about their intelligence and their accuracy. I really don't see much of a difference. Both are athletic guys, running 4.7-ish 40s, both played on top-tier teams in mediocre conferences. I'm not necessarily saying Bradford will be a bust; I haven't given up on Alex Smith quite yet. But their profiles are really, really similar.
He is way to similar to Alex Smith for my liking, pull up some old Alex Smith reports and rename them Sam Bradford’s scouting report and I doubt you’ll find many flaws in them. In college, Alex Smith was a leader, he was super intelligent, accurate, efficient with the football and looked like the next big thing at QB, sounds a lot like Bradford right about now. Then toss in average arm strength, a college scheme that boosted his stats, a college scheme that hindered their development in terms of reading defenses and going through progressions, would have to adjust to taking snaps from center and toss in the fact they’re both pocket passers and you’re looking at near clones of one another. Hopefully Sam Bradford isn’t the next Alex Smith for the sake of whatever team drafts him.
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Toby Gerhart = Mike Alstott or Brian Leonard...................just kidding.
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unfortunately I can't disagree with the Eddie comparisons b/c I didn't get to watch enough of Toby in college. Damn west coast television region. I've only seen about 4 games of Toby and I can't say I was thinking about Eddie when watching him. Does he run up^right?
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I see the Sam Bradford/Phillip Rivers comparison, Don't see the Bradford/Alex Smith comparison at all.
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yeah, Bradford is a little bit like Philip Rivers or Bernie Kosar.
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He is way to similar to Alex Smith for my liking, pull up some old Alex Smith reports and rename them Sam Bradford’s scouting report and I doubt you’ll find many flaws in them. In college, Alex Smith was a leader, he was super intelligent, accurate, efficient with the football and looked like the next big thing at QB, sounds a lot like Bradford right about now. Then toss in average arm strength, a college scheme that boosted his stats, a college scheme that hindered their development in terms of reading defenses and going through progressions, would have to adjust to taking snaps from center and toss in the fact they’re both pocket passers and you’re looking at near clones of one another. Hopefully Sam Bradford isn’t the next Alex Smith for the sake of whatever team drafts him.
Not to mention they both suffered the exact same shoulder injury.

http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs...mith-advi.html

I've never been real big on Bradford. I like him as a person better than Clausen, but I've got my fingers crossed hoping that the Seahawks don't draft either of them.
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I dug up a couple of scouting reports for each of them. Guess who's who: (You probably can, but that's not the point)

QB 1

6'4" 217 lbs, 4.75

________ is a mobile quarterback with good quickness, agility, and awareness. He has a solid throwing motion, and he displayed fantastic accuracy. He has the athletic ability to be a threat running the ball as well as throwing it.
________ is also a very intelligent quarterback who reads defenses well and makes good, quick decisions. He has a tremendous work ethic on the field as well as in the film room, and he displays good leadership qualities.

The junior from _______ doesn't possess the strongest arm in the draft and might fit best in a West Coast style of offense, but he can make all the throws to be successful in the NFL, and he remains accurate when he's on the run. He has good, quick footwork, sound mechanics, and a high release point.
With the lack of a bona fide potential superstar quarterback in the _____ NFL Draft, _______'s stock has risen higher than it probably would have in most years. Some draft boards have him as the No. 1 selection overall.


And QB 2

6'4" 218 lbs 4.75

______ quarterback _________ had developed into one of the top prospects in the nation at quarterback by his sophomore season. ______, a redshirt junior, is not the most mobile quarterback, but he is very accurate. In my view, he would be a great fit in a West Coast system because of his accuracy and quick decision-making, but his skills won't limit him to that system alone.

He possesses adequate arm strength, decent mobility, and is a smart player who rarely makes mistakes, as his career touchdown-to-interception ratio illustrates. And at 6-4 and about 220 pounds, he has the size to play the position at the NFL level.


I edited some of the injury information out of the comparisons, because that's too obvious, and I realize that Bradford is now listed at something like 235 pounds, but those measurements are from the scouting reports, which are both from the same site. 40 times are basically common knowledge...And does anyone really doubt that Sam Bradford could've run for 10 touchdowns if he'd had been playing in the MWC?

http://football.about.com/od/playerp...smith.-Gwn.htm

http://football.about.com/od/nflplay.../Sam-Bradford/
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Jimmy Clausen reminds me of Matt Leinart.

Sam Bradford is like a less turnover prone Tim Couch

Tim Tebow reminds of Rich Gannon.

Colt McCoy is most like Charlie Frye
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Jimmy Clausen reminds me of Matt Leinart.

Sam Bradford is like a less turnover prone Tim Couch

Tim Tebow reminds of Rich Gannon.

Colt McCoy is most like Charlie Frye
What!!!!! These are bad.
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Sam Bradford is like a less turnover prone Tim Couch

Tim Tebow reminds of Rich Gannon.

Colt McCoy is most like Charlie Frye
worst comparisons i've ever seen.
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everyone one of those is ridiculous lol. charlie frye is a mack truck with a big arm, thats everything colt mccoy isnt
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Charlie Frye is a big mother ******, but a strong arm he does not have.
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Jimmy Clausen reminds me of Matt Leinart.

Sam Bradford is like a less turnover prone Tim Couch

Tim Tebow reminds of Rich Gannon.

Colt McCoy is most like Charlie Frye
Clausen is a top 10 talent physically but questions about intangibles and character-frat boy perception-these issues still dog Leinart, picked 10th.

Bradford likely # 1 overall pick like Couch-never completely transitioned from spread offense to pro style-accuracy believed to be their greatest strength. Sam may not turn the ball over as much as Timmy but for each, any success depends heavily on talent around them.

Rich Gannon
was a 4th rd pick drafted to play another position-more athlete than QB initially. Work ethic and character kept him in the league-had success after about 5 seasons but didn't get really good till late in his career.

Frye is a little guy with a weak arm who has sticked in the league because of his competitiveness and work ethic. Mobility is okay-has a knack for making plays but is not a legit starter-was a 3rd rd pick.
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Charlie was like 6'4"/215 coming out of Akron and was only a 3rd round pick b/c his arm is made of Kraft macaroni and cheese. I was so very happy when we drafted him after his great career and senior bowl (and b/c he played college ball in my hometown). Frye played pretty good for the Raiders against the Browns aside from the part when he was horrible and threw like 3 or 4 INTs.
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Jamar Chaney - Ricky Brown

Both have great timed speed and are quick on the field with just a little bit of hip stiffness. Also, both guys are aggressive players, but they tend to get run over by big blockers. Both have some durability concerns, though I think they're a much bigger deal with Brown, who just can't seem to stay healthy.
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I'm telling you, Toby Gerhart is a functional clone of Eddie George,

I predict a very similar career for him, barring any kind of injury.
This is an insult to Eddie George
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This is an insult to Eddie George
Not really. Eddie George way well be the most overrated player to ever play in the NFL.
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Not really. Eddie George way well be the most overrated player to ever play in the NFL.
Even if that were true, which I don't think it is, Eddie George is nothing more than Toby Gerhart? I think not
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