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Old 10-15-2009, 11:52 AM    (permalink
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Dang, Suggs is only 27. It just feels like he's been around forever.
He came into the league when he was 20, so he has been around a while. I'm not sure I would put him as one of our young talents anymore, he's like in the middle of old and young :D.
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Since most of our youth is unproven, I'll just mention this

Joe Thomas, 24
Eric Wright, 24

That's right, the best tackle and one of the best up and coming corners are only 24.
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Offense:

DeAngelo Williams
Jon Stewart

Jeff King / Dante Rosario (neither post eye popping stats, but both have been excellent this year)
Otah is a very good right tackle
Kalil is one of the best centers in the NFC right now, very quietly so, makes no mistakes, makes excellent calls and never gives up sacks or whiffs on blocks. IMO he's a top 5 player on the team.

I'll admit, QB and WR are a little sparse, but there is like with kenny moore and Steve Smith is only just hitting 30 with no real injury history.

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Charles Johnson
: Becoming a force and likely will replace Peppers as a starter next year, he's been excellent this year splitting snaps nearly 50/50 with Brayton
DT is a little bare
Everette Brown: Showing a lot of promise and rapidly improving, instrumental against washington.
Beason already one of the best linebackers in the NFL
Thomas Davis dominant this year and IMO will push for a probowl spot
James Anderson starting in the place of Diggs and playing some really good football behind him is Dan Connor who's still realistically coming back from a knee injury, looks very promising in limited action.
Gamble already a very good CB
Captain Munnerlyn 7th round pick, is already a nickel back in his rookie year beating out higher picks and 2 veterans
Richard Marshall Only in his 3rd or fourth year, very stout at the point of attack, excellent in run support, good cover guy
Godfrey quality FS, roaming, runs, good in support.

Three corners, one safety, two defensive ends, four linebackers all at starting quality.

Two running backs, two tight ends, a tackle a centre and WR coming up and some legitimate depth at guard over the last two years drafting who're already starting to sub Keydrick Vincent.

The skill positions on defense are set, the framework is there on offense. All that's needed realistically for the team to be strong for another 5 years is a guy at wide receiver, a guard or two (who are likely already on the team) and a quarterback.

It's impossible for me to stress just how limiting the QB play has been this year. 21 points through offense turn overs against Philly, 2 scores given to Washington because of turnovers inside the 20 and five consecutive three and outs preceded and followed by INTs against Dallas.

2 Losses and 1 very close win through poor QB play has really hidden just how good the nucleus of this team is. Last year with Delhomme playing well they dismantled a lot of opponents.

I agree QB and DT need fixing, but right now, the team is strong and young everywhere else. Just those two key positions through injury or bad play are letting the team down. Losing 3 DTs before the season always puts a dampner on things.


You guys have a FEW good young players, but when you start listing guys like Jeff King and Dante Rosario, then you always act surprised when someone calls you a homer. Neither the Panthers, nor those 2 TE's deserve to be in this conversation. I could give you a pass on a few of the guys you listed who have really shown minimal at this point because their rookies so a few good plays after 5 games hardly means anything, but you lost credibility for the post when you listed the TE's as if there anything special at all.



Then again these threads always turn into homer threads. I love the Ravens probably the most, had they been able to keep Jason Brown at C that O-line would be sick, Oher has arguably been the top rookie and Gaither is arguably the top LT right now in the league, and they still have plenty of youth on defense.


I still like the Jets, Giants, and Eagles though, because they have some young players at key positions that are actually specially talents, not just run of the mill players who are below 26.
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Didn't someone before the season post the youngest and oldest teams in the NFL. Just find that thread, look from the youngest team on up, and see if they are good. I am sure then, you will find, which team is has the best talent for their young age.
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You guys have a FEW good young players, but when you start listing guys like Jeff King and Dante Rosario, then you always act surprised when someone calls you a homer. Neither the Panthers, nor those 2 TE's deserve to be in this conversation. I could give you a pass on a few of the guys you listed who have really shown minimal at this point because their rookies so a few good plays after 5 games hardly means anything, but you lost credibility for the post when you listed the TE's as if there anything special at all.
I think Dante Rosario is pretty good.

As for best young talent...Eagles come to mind, it always seems like they are pulling some playmakers out of a hat. #1 should probably be the Ravens though. The D, that O-line, hitting on a QB, it keeps going.
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How has Curry looked for the seahawks? I haven't had a chance to see him play.
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Raiders are pretty young but we suck so we dont count
They have had a couple of excellent drafts in the recent past & have some excellent younger players ..... pretty much one-sided though, all on defense. Their offense is not even a work in progress, it's an unmitigated disaster under new HC after new HC.

Asomugha from Cal & my vote for Unsung Raider Hero, Kirk Morrison the MLB, both local players came in the same draft. It indicates just how hard the times are for the Raiders that their twice-FPed player Asomugha is rumored to be trade bait. Morrison gets no headlines or fanbase love but he's steady, dependable. And he doesn't cause trouble in the least stable, most mutiny-prone locker room in the league. I think Morrison was a mid-rd. steal, he's an Oakland native happy to be playing in his hometown. Michael Huff has enormous upside as a phenom athlete & who was moved to safety but hasnt fulfilled any expectations yet.

KC is a very young team that did an almost complete reload under the Herminator, who said he wanted "8 new starters here" last yr, came close with like 7 of them. As for a good young team, uhh, no. Watching them vs Dallas last Sunday I saw that Bowe is a budding superstar & they have very good (but not great) team speed. They got rid of Herm & the regime of King Carl Peterson at the top, definitely the right direction to go. Keep an eye on KC after the next draft, they will almost certainly be drafting in the top 5-6 & if they could get a couple more more impact rookies who can start as rookies, watch out.

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Hmm....young pups on the Bears worth mentioning:

QB- Jay Cutler- 26
RB- Matt Forte-23
WR- Devin Hester- 26
WR- Earl Bennett- 22
WR- Johnny Knox- 22
TE- Greg Olson-24
TE- Kellen Davis- 23
OT- Chris Williams- 24
G- Frank Omiyale- 26
C- Josh Beekman- 26

DE- Mark Anderson- 26
DT- Tommie Harris- 26
DT- Marcus Harrison- 24
CB- Zack Bowman- 24
S- Danieal Manning- 26
S- Al Afalava- 22


Lance Briggs and Charles Tillman are both 28. This is about what I expected. Pretty solid overall.
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He played ok in the Bears game. Nothing special.
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Really didn't want to but thought I had to throw this out there. I used 26 and under for the criteria. Do you realize how young of a team this is?

Green Bay Packers:
QB -Aaron Rodgers
RB - Ryan Grant
WR - Greg Jennings
WR -James Jones
WR - Jordy Nelson
TE - Jermichael Finley

DL - BJ Raji
DL - Johnny Jolly
LB - AJ Hawk
LB - Clay Matthews
CB - Tramon Williams
S - Nick Collins

Could use some young promising offensive lineman.
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Considering the Packers probably have the worst o-line in the NFL, I'd say so.
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Considering the Packers probably have the worst o-line in the NFL, I'd say so.
You saw an offensive line that had players out of position the last 4 weeks. Clifton should be back, one of the more consistent left tackles in the game, and Tauscher was brought back to push, if not take, Barbre's "job." We were one of the worst offensive lines in the first quarter but I'd be surprised if we're in the bottom half from this point forward.
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Rams young players
RB Steven Jackson
TE Daniel Fells
LT Alex Barron
G Richie Incogntio
C Jason Brown
RT Jason Smith
WR Donnie Avery, Keenan Burton, Laurant Robinson
DE Chris Long
DT Clifton Ryan, LaJuan Ramsey, Leger Douzeable, Darrell Scott
LB James Laurinatis
CB Ron Bartell, Jonathan Wade, Bradley Fletcher
S James Butler, OJ Atogwe

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Didn't someone before the season post the youngest and oldest teams in the NFL. Just find that thread, look from the youngest team on up, and see if they are good. I am sure then, you will find, which team is has the best talent for their young age.
IIRC, the youngest team was the was the Packers, the 2nd youngest was the Colts.

As a Colts fan I thought about the team, and really the players that make the team run (Peyton, Reggie, Clark, Freeney, Mathis, & Saturday are the first 6 I'd choose) have an age range of 28-34.

That said, there is some young talent.
Offense
(22) Donald Brown RB
(23) Austin Collie WR
(23) Pierre Garcon WR
(25) Charlie Johnson LT
(26) Joseph Addai RB

Every Colts fan held their breath when Johnson was starting over Tony Ugoh, but after watching Tony sub-in for Charlie, the difference is dramatic. Maybe I'm a homer but I'd put him in the 10-15 range of LTs in the league. Collie is leading rookies with receptions & TDs. The RBs have talent, but the O-line can't run-block to save their life.

Defense
(22) Jacob Lacy CB
(22) Jerod Powers CB
(24) Melvin Bullit SS
(25) Antoine Bethea FS
(25) Clint Session LB

I know that our secondary benefits immensely from the pass-rush, & without Freeney & Mathis, we'd get exposed like the Titans have. That said, when a undrafted rookie free agent lines up across from Larry Fitzgerald, and manages, he deserves to be mentioned in this thread.
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I'm not really a fan of theirs but...Ravens get my vote
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I'm not really a fan of theirs but...Ravens get my vote
Problem with the Ravens is they are getting younger and more talented on offense, but older on defense. And the younger guys they're brining into the secondary, aren't any good. And Ed Reed's body is older than his age would say. He might retire in a year or two.
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Problem with the Ravens is they are getting younger and more talented on offense, but older on defense. And the younger guys they're brining into the secondary, aren't any good. And Ed Reed's body is older than his age would say. He might retire in a year or two.
I like their D as long as they still have Haloti Ngata. Newsome has a solid track record as well.
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I like their D as long as they still have Haloti Ngata. Newsome has a solid track record as well.
We'll see. I didn't have them in the playoffs this year because I thought we wouldn't see your typical Ravens defense. And I don't think we have. But I didn't account for their offense playing so well. They're getting old along the front minus Ngata who is a stud. And I could be wrong but it seems they're not as high on some of their younger linebackers as maybe they once were. Barnes hasn't impressed too much.

And their secondary is pretty bad right now. And they're arent any young promising guys down the depth chart.
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We'll see. I didn't have them in the playoffs this year because I thought we wouldn't see your typical Ravens defense. And I don't think we have. But I didn't account for their offense playing so well. They're getting old along the front minus Ngata who is a stud. And I could be wrong but it seems they're not as high on some of their younger linebackers as maybe they once were. Barnes hasn't impressed too much.

And their secondary is pretty bad right now. And they're arent any young promising guys down the depth chart.
Gooden was getting really hyped up to. Yeah, I agree. Paul Kruger intrigues me, just from what I saw of him pre-season.
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Gooden was getting really hyped up to. Yeah, I agree. Paul Kruger intrigues me, just from what I saw of him pre-season.
I know he wasn't active the first few games. Dunno about the last two. Apparently Kruger can't play special teams so he's been not dressing.
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Kinda funny, I thought this thread was a league wide thing, not team wide...
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You guys have a FEW good young players, but when you start listing guys like Jeff King and Dante Rosario, then you always act surprised when someone calls you a homer. Neither the Panthers, nor those 2 TE's deserve to be in this conversation. I could give you a pass on a few of the guys you listed who have really shown minimal at this point because their rookies so a few good plays after 5 games hardly means anything, but you lost credibility for the post when you listed the TE's as if there anything special at all.
Dante Rosario is an excellent receiver and very good perimeter blocker, he's often split wide and in the slot, more of an H-back type receiver. Together the pair of them have nearly around 200 yards receiving and 3 TDs (pretty much all of Delhomme's TDs) and Rosario has a receiving average of 15 yards per catch, 100% of them for first downs.

In other words, when you need a first down conversion or you're in the redzone either one of these guys are money.

Just because they're not individual stars doesn't mean they're not good players. Jeff Davidson comes from the Belichick school of tight ends, hell he was the NE TE coach for a bunch of years, he uses them in tandem as blockers or receivers and the two of them were pivotal last year and have been one of the only bright spots of the offense this year.

Right now there's only three or four guys in the NFL who'd be a better fit for the offense.

They don't get headlines, they don't have earth shattering stats, but they're the best play makers right now on offense.

Just because you don't know how the offense is run in carolina, or just how good they've been playing doesn't mean they suck or I'm a homer, it means you're mis-informed.

Besides which, I had carolina listed with a bunch of other teams coming together three or four in tota.

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Didn't someone before the season post the youngest and oldest teams in the NFL. Just find that thread, look from the youngest team on up, and see if they are good. I am sure then, you will find, which team is has the best talent for their young age.
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Since most of our youth is unproven, I'll just mention this

Joe Thomas, 24
Eric Wright, 24

That's right, the best tackle and one of the best up and coming corners are only 24.
Except for Clady right?
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We'll see. I didn't have them in the playoffs this year because I thought we wouldn't see your typical Ravens defense. And I don't think we have. But I didn't account for their offense playing so well. They're getting old along the front minus Ngata who is a stud. And I could be wrong but it seems they're not as high on some of their younger linebackers as maybe they once were. Barnes hasn't impressed too much.

And their secondary is pretty bad right now. And they're arent any young promising guys down the depth chart.
The secondary is horrible because our pass rush gives QBs enough time to jerk it in the pocket. We are trying to be a traditional 4-3 D w/ a front 7 built perfectly for a 3-4 attacking defense.
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Didn't someone before the season post the youngest and oldest teams in the NFL. Just find that thread, look from the youngest team on up, and see if they are good. I am sure then, you will find, which team is has the best talent for their young age.
That doesn't really work but, the Colts may the second youngest team in the NFL but most of their key players are around that 30 mark.
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