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Old 10-26-2009, 07:16 PM    (permalink
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Imagine if he didnt resign with Cowboys, what some teams would be willing to throw at him.
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He wasn't on Ware's level before he got hurt. I don't see him getting close to what Ware got.
Merriman's 2006 season was every bit as good as DeMarcus Ware's 2008 season.
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Merriman's 2006 season was every bit as good as DeMarcus Ware's 2008 season.
They're equal when it comes to rushing the passer and Ware is better at everything else.
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He looked pretty good against KC.
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The Redskins?
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Yah but he was actually moving around like he used to as well.
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Ware played throughout most of the season so far while recovering from a broken foot.
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I think it has more to do with him being off roids now.
See this is one those arguments that makes no sense. He tested positive once in 2006 during the offseason, and subsequently tested negative since. He was tearing it up in 2006 even when he was off the roids as you put it so bluntly. Do people actually still think that his suspension was when he actually tested positive?
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Good move for the cowboys to do this, made him the highest paid non QB for the next 3 years, but doesn't kill there cap after that. Somehow kept him from asking for Fat Al money.
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See this is one those arguments that makes no sense. He tested positive once in 2006 during the offseason, and subsequently tested negative since. He was tearing it up in 2006 even when he was off the roids as you put it so bluntly. Do people actually still think that his suspension was when he actually tested positive?
It's not like you lose all the effects of roids in a week. If you keep working out hard you can keep a lot of the muscle mass you gain. I don't know if Merriman's lack of production has more to do with having been injured or being off roids, but your argument doesn't really hold up because going off roids after testing positive doesn't mean he would immediately lose all the benefit he gained from being on them.

edit: and to keep this on topic, Demarcus Ware is a cool cat.
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*Disclaimer - You will think this is homer*

Reading this thread, I don't see how everyone is so certain Ware is the best at his position. I know its not all in stats but here are a few.

Ware has started 70 games so far in his career. He has 321 Tackles, 57.5 sacks, 1 INT, 16 PDef, & 20 FF.

Harrison has started 46 games so far in his career. He has 350 Tackles, 36.5 sacks, 3 INT, 13 PDef, & 18 FF.

Merriman has started 44 games. He has 207 Tackles, 39.5 sacks, 1 INT, 15 PDef, & 8 FF.

Merriman has the better sack to game ratio of the 3. Harrison has the best tackle total by far. Harrison also has the most FF in the shortest amount of games.

Also, Shawne is 25, Ware is 27, & Harrison is 31 and Harrison is having by far the best season so far.

I'm not saying Harrison is the best of the 3. But I don't see how anyone can say Ware is clearly the best.

Also: Congratulations Ware!!!
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I'd pay that for Ware in a heartbeat. Hell, I'd give him a 10% raise to come to the Jets. Hey Dallas, how badly do you want a Bryan Thomas and Vernon Gholston package? ;)
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I knew opening this thread i would see a Merriman and roids in the same sentence, haters.
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Where is the $118 million coming from?

It $78 million...which would actually be a bargain for Ware. The $40 million is also less than what was expected. At one time we were hearing $45 million plus, in guaranteed money. The contract is on the light side for Ware. It's a good one for the organization.
I changed it now. When the story first broke they had the number at 118.
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Not to start a huge explosive argument but Merriman has recovered from a serious injury. And most people know it takes 2 yrs to fully come back from that type of injury.

And what has Ware done for the Cowboys lately?? He has 4 sacks in 2 games and the other 4 games zilch.

Also, the Plug n' Play is BS. I fail to see how Pittsburgh is a Plug n' Play system. Joey Porter never got more than 10.5 sacks and Harrison is already 2.5 sacks away from that. The most tackles Porter ever had in a season was 88 but rarely did he break 65. I hate that just because we find good players and know how to coach up LBers, that we are a plug n' play system. Its not true. No one has played better than Harrison in LeBeau's system. And thats the truth. Harrison is ROLB going against the LT. Kevin Greene was a LOLB incase someone wanted to bring him up.

And Porter had his best season as a Dolphin just to further scratch the Plug n' Play rumor.

Those just aren't good enough reasons to me. Honestly, I take 2006 Merriman over Ware and Harrison, but I'm plenty happy with Harrison.
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Now we are. :D

Other than Roy Williams and Patrick Crayton, we dont have many prima donnas. Looking around the roster, we have a roster chalk-full of role model type guys, these days. The roster has really been cleaned up when it comes to most of those troubled players or bad seeds. Cant hate on these guys for being a holes or criminals...anymore.
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James Harrison is definitely a piece of ****. Only the biggest Steelers homer could disagree with that.
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No one was arguing his actions as a human being and boyfriend. Just his football playing ability. You aren't gonna hear me say Harrison is a good human being.
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Not to start a huge explosive argument but Merriman has recovered from a serious injury. And most people know it takes 2 yrs to fully come back from that type of injury.

And what has Ware done for the Cowboys lately?? He has 4 sacks in 2 games and the other 4 games zilch.
Are you going to acknowledge that he's been playing hurt?
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