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Old 11-16-2009, 02:35 PM    (permalink
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Dolphins DE Jason Taylor about Bucs QB Josh Freeman: "That kid is going to be good....I've got a lot of respect for that young kid." On Schefter Twitter.
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It's not quite time to jump on the bandwagon, but us Bucs fans have good reason to be optimistic and excited about our QBotF. Freeman looks like he could be special - if he continues to develop.

We need to hire a good DC and have a good draft. Next year will be interesting.
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It's not quite time to jump on the bandwagon, but us Bucs fans have good reason to be optimistic and excited about our QBotF. Freeman looks like he could be special - if he continues to develop.

We need to hire a good DC and have a good draft. Next year will be interesting.
Suh in the first, Golden Tate in the second. You heard it here first.
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This reminds me of the Draft discussion about him last year and how people basically laughed at you if you said he would resemble anything halfway decent as an NFL QB. People were all over him and bashed him to no end about how huge a failure he would be, I'm sure there were some in the other corner also but it was a small group compared to the latter.
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I still believe it so...Freeman will end up a bust.

Plus, even if I didn't, my ego is too big to concede this early.
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This reminds me of the Draft discussion about him last year and how people basically laughed at you if you said he would resemble anything halfway decent as an NFL QB. People were all over him and bashed him to no end about how huge a failure he would be, I'm sure there were some in the other corner also but it was a small group compared to the latter.
I was one of those in the small group. But WHAT a group it could turn out to be!
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Dude had a spectacular play and throw to get his TD against the Saints. After that, it was ugly, he missed a lot of really easy throws with poor accuracy.
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This reminds me of the Draft discussion about him last year and how people basically laughed at you if you said he would resemble anything halfway decent as an NFL QB. People were all over him and bashed him to no end about how huge a failure he would be, I'm sure there were some in the other corner also but it was a small group compared to the latter.
I wasn't a fan of him at all as a prospect, but even after his game yesterday I'm warming up to him. I'll gladly eat crow on him.
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Toonster had Freeman has his favorite QB of the draft last year. Damn you toonster and your intelligence...
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I honestly was a Freeman basher, and I'm still not sold yet.

Just wait until teams get some film on him. Thats the true test.
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This reminds me of the Draft discussion about him last year and how people basically laughed at you if you said he would resemble anything halfway decent as an NFL QB. People were all over him and bashed him to no end about how huge a failure he would be, I'm sure there were some in the other corner also but it was a small group compared to the latter.
The biggest complaint with Freeman was that he still had a lot of work to do, and frankly he still does. He can certainly become a top QB, but if his progress hits a snag he very well could still end up a complete bust.
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I like McCoy over Suh by a large margin. Golden Tate would make me really happy though.

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I still believe it so...Freeman will end up a bust.

Plus, even if I didn't, my ego is too big to concede this early.
It's not a big deal. Some players just adapt from the college to the pro game. If you watch Freeman play this year (compared to KState), he's much more advanced physically and mentally. Stats aside, the guy is on the right track and shaping himself well. The same thing happened to Matt Ryan from college to the pros.

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I honestly was a Freeman basher, and I'm still not sold yet.

Just wait until teams get some film on him. Thats the true test.
Much as the Saints did and exposed him?

My favorite QB going into this past draft was Stafford and he has done nothing to prove me wrong. He just needs a better OL, unlike Freeman, who has an above average one.
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I still believe it so...Freeman will end up a bust.

Plus, even if I didn't, my ego is too big to concede this early.
Whew, my and basically everyone else on the forums' predictions looking good ATM. Eight INTs in past two games.
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That's okay, he's a rookie. Rookies throw picks. Peyton Manning threw 28 of them.
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His line looks awful today. Not just the three picks but 33 attempts for 93 yards?

I actually thought he looked somewhat passable last week against the Panthers...until he started throwing picks anytime he got into the red zone. Today looks like it was a disaster
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He looks like he needs to be benched.
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That's exactly what I was going to say. I believe he'll be a very good quarterback but we'll have to wait 3 years to see how he progresses.
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True, but he also threw 26 touchdowns. To get mathematical, that's a 1:1.07 ratio. Josh Freeman is sporting a 1:1.86 TD/INT ratio. Not too similar.
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He looks decent to me when I watch him with the ability to get better, itll all be about how hard he works and how TB builds their team.
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Freeman has just locked into a receiver way too much. He really has to learn to read defenses first.
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He looks like he needs to be benched.
Lol yea that makes alot of sense. People are too quick to judge a rookie QB, off their good and bad play. Who didn't expect terrible games from him? I didn't even think he was ready to play this year honestly let alone look as good as he did in some starts.


He's got the tools to be a good QB, and once you go with your franchise QB you don't bench him again. They almost always have terrible games, it's part of the growing pains. He'll be fine I think, but no reason for people to start calling him a bust all over or talking about benching him for poor performances.
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One of my best friends is a bucs fan. He hates Josh Freeman.
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