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Old 11-02-2009, 04:40 PM    (permalink
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Uhhh lets not assume that after a season and a half. Is he playing well, sure, much better than last year, many many Qbs are ahead of him as of right now imo. Players that have played this well consistently for longer than a season and a half, where the first season wasnt all that jaw dropping.
Agreed. Flacco is young, he's already good and he has tons of potential. However, he's no where near the top yet. I would definitely put Flacco in the top 15, maybe top 10 (haven't really thought it through) but definitely not top 5.
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I could put Flacco in my top 15 most likely, def not my top ten. Im not trying to knock the guy but in terms of the thread, a top 5 Qb, he has a long way to go.
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A new challenger has appeared!

The definitive list:

1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Drew Brees
4. Philip Rivers
5. Ben Roethlisberger
6. Jamarcus Russell
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Uhhh lets not assume that after a season and a half. Is he playing well, sure, much better than last year, many many Qbs are ahead of him as of right now imo. Players that have played this well consistently for longer than a season and a half, where the first season wasnt all that jaw dropping.
Well I wasn't saying he is a top 5 I am saying he is starting to make a case for himself. Last year we were so conservative with him and he has been great for us this year. He could be a top 5 QB in the next couple of years assuming we are going to complete this transition from a run first team to a passing team.
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Well I wasn't saying he is a top 5 I am saying he is starting to make a case for himself. Last year we were so conservative with him and he has been great for us this year. He could be a top 5 QB in the next couple of years assuming we are going to complete this transition from a run first team to a passing team.
Agreed, he has great potential, and if he continues this type of play and leads the Ravens O like hes been doing than I def see him getting on that list.
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i'll happily post my top 5 when i've seen every qb in the league at least once. until then, it seems sort of silly.
Just post 5 QBs better than Brady. That's all you need to do to prove your point.

Of course I highly doubt anybody will agree with the ridiculous assertion that Brady isn't a Top 5 QB.
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This year? I could easily make that argument.

Manning
Brees
Rodgers
Favre
McNabb
Ryan
Orton
Rivers
Schaub
Roethlisberger
Flacco
Romo

The first 4 have definitely been better than Brady this season, and I would argue that 2 of the rest (McNabb, Roethlisberger) have been as well. But my list is

1. Manning
2. Brees
3. Brady
4. Rodgers
5. Favre

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This year? I could easily make that argument.

Manning
Brees
Rodgers
Favre
McNabb
Orton
Rivers
Schaub
Roethlisberger
Flacco
Romo

The first 4 have definitely been better than Brady this season, and I would argue that 2 of the rest (McNabb, Roethlisberger) have been as well. But my list is

1. Manning
2. Brees
3. Brady
4. Rodgers
5. Favre
uh no, mcnabb played an awful game on monday night football last week and his team won in spite of his horrendous play. gosh, he was bad. dont look at the numbers, mcnabb doesnt throw with accuracy and anticipation at a consistent level. he also struggles at times pre snap.
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uh no, mcnabb played an awful game on monday night football last week and his team won in spite of his horrendous play. gosh, he was bad. dont look at the numbers, mcnabb doesnt throw with accuracy and anticipation at a consistent level. he also struggles at times pre snap.
Look at his numbers if you want as well. He's thrown for HALF the yards Brady has. Yet he's somehow better than Brady? That argument is just not possible to make.

How is Orton even in this conversation? It's the same story as when he was with the Bears. He can keep you in a game by hitting short passes and not turning the ball over. He's Trent Dilfer. I can't fathom how people are trying to argue he's been better than Brady.
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Look at his numbers if you want as well. He's thrown for HALF the yards Brady has. Yet he's somehow better than Brady? That argument is just not possible to make.
Maybe he has half of the yards because he has half of the attempts? He has more yards per attempt, a higher TD %, and a much lower interception %.
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earlier, i posted several qbs who had an argument. but then, you're probably arguing at a career level and i'm arguing this year. that or you didn't actually see brady play before the last two games.
No, I'm saying this year. Where did you post 5 guys over Brady? I looked and couldn't find it, but perhaps you could point me to the exact post.


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so is schaub the best qb in the league?
No, but arguing that a QB who has HALF the yards of another QB after 8 games or whatever is better is simply ridiculous. You actually think McNabb has outperformed Brady this year? Do you have some deep-seated hate for Brady and the Patriots or something?
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does anyone else think that in terms of a pure passer Brees is better than Brady?
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does anyone else think that in terms of a pure passer Brees is better than Brady?
I think he has a better arm, yes. He fits the ball into some really tight spots. If playing QB was just dropping back and ripping a pass he would be a better player, no doubt in my mind.
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I think he has a better arm, yes. He fits the ball into some really tight spots. If playing QB was just dropping back and ripping a pass he would be a better player, no doubt in my mind.
that's how I feel. i don't know, in my limited sample of watching brees, I'm enamored with his arm. His strength, his outstanding accuracy and he's not completely immobile either. There's just something about Brady though...
But if we were doing that silly "build a QB" I'd take Brees' right arm/shoulder over Brady's all day.
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right now? easily.


see, again maybe it's Brady's rust, Brees pooping on virtually everyone (had a few off games thus far) and me seeing Brees rip the Giants a new one and Brady struggle against the Jets, but there's just something about Brees. I wish I could watch him more. Is it just his system? i don't know. It's hard to judge QB's without seeing them play that often. In my mind, to just throw it out there, I think Peyton is easily the best QB in the league ahead of Brady. And these are 2 guys I watch often
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see, again maybe it's Brady's rust, Brees pooping on virtually everyone (had a few off games thus far) and me seeing Brees rip the Giants a new one and Brady struggle against the Jets, but there's just something about Brees. I wish I could watch him more. Is it just his system? i don't know. It's hard to judge QB's without seeing them play that often. In my mind, to just throw it out there, I think Peyton is easily the best QB in the league ahead of Brady. And these are 2 guys I watch often
Brady is a lot like Peyton in that he controls every aspect of the game and is a coach on the field. Leadership, intangibles, reads, knowing tendencies, doing the small things, etc. are all areas that I think have separated Brady and Manning for years now and it's continued this season. Brees is ultra accurate with the ball but he doesn't command a game like Manning or Brady.

njx9 is backpedaling after he tried to argue Orton for Top 5. LOL.
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Brady is a lot like Peyton in that he controls every aspect of the game and is a coach on the field. Leadership, intangibles, reads, knowing tendencies, doing the small things, etc. are all areas that I think have separated Brady and Manning for years now and it's continued this season. Brees is ultra accurate with the ball but he doesn't command a game like Manning or Brady.

njx9 is backpedaling after he tried to argue Orton for Top 5. LOL.
how is he backpedaling? Brady has been average at best and did not really win a game for them till like the Titans game. he looked uncomfortable in the pocket, didnt have the zip on his balls like he used to, overthrew guys, seemed to panic under pressure, seemed rattled after the defense got to him a couple of times, didnt look comfortable stepping up.
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how is he backpedaling? Brady has been average at best and did not really win a game for them till like the Titans game
Average at best? Have you watched him at all this season? He's playing like he has in the past. Not tearing it up the way he did that record-setting season but you can't expect that every year.
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weed king is ignoring arguments because his own argument is silly.

please quote where i said that orton is definitively a top 5 qb.
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in all honesty, i'd put orton there (FOR NOW. and not because i think orton's necessarily a better qb, but if we're basing it off play this year, orton is one of the best qbs in the nfl). he may not be able to go vertical, but he doesn't need to. it's like pennington last year in miami.
And you also said Tom Brady isn't a Top 5 QB.

Hence, you're saying Orton > Brady this season.

Completely ridiculous argument.
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Average at best? Have you watched him at all this season? He's playing like he has in the past. Not tearing it up the way he did that record-setting season but you can't expect that every year.
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thats what i edited in. and yes, why would i make an argument about a guy i havent seen
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And you also said Tom Brady isn't a Top 5 QB.

Hence, you're saying Orton > Brady this season.

Completely ridiculous argument.
I fail to see how that is a ridiculous argument. Brady definitely has better numbers but you can't forget that 9 of his touchdowns came against the Titans and Bucs, two of the worst pass defenses in the league, and he has a much better team around him than Orton.
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Here it is for you. Brady and Schaub are #2 and #3 in YAC [QBs]. No surprise that the majority of great QBs are at the top of this passing category, so I don't really hold it against them.
That can kind of give you the wrong impression but. Hitting guy in stride 20 yards downfield and him taking another 20 is completely different to being captain checkdown and relying on running backs and tight ends to get you first downs.
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what happened? why did he get banned and named to lady bug?
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No doubt Brees has outplayed Brady this year, Idk how you can make an argument for Brady being better this year. In terms of comapring them over all, I have only seen one and a half saints games this year, and while Brees has impressed me, Id have to say Brady 07 was godly. Every time I watched him let go of the ball it was like knowing it was going to be a completion.
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Brady is going to have 4,000 yards, 30-8 TD/INT, and on a team that will probably be the #2 seed in the AFC. Yeah, he's not top-5 and that's forgetting his pedigree. (this forum misses the classic njx rolling eyes emoticon)
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