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Old 11-04-2009, 11:04 PM    (permalink
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Being mature, CJ, you overestimate this board. However, I want to join the Free masons to be upset about the things that people attribute to them that is not them.

CJ, DID THE FREEMASONS KILL JFK???

I thought surprise would make you spill.
Hey, I'm being optimistic and set a good example.

















OK, well, I'll stay optimistic at least.
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Hey, I'm being optimistic and set a good example.

OK, well, I'll stay optimistic at least.
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My grandfather is a freemason. Not too much I know or that he'll tell me, my theory is it's just another type of country club with more mystery and secrecy and while there's probably helpful hookups in the form of "yo I'm unemployed, put a good word in for me" "sure"

than "lets take all the money from sweden and blame it on the jews and then we'll get Bush elected for a third term" type hook ups
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There is a Freemason temple/office/church (I don't know the correct terminology) in Iowa City right across from where I used to live. It was in this big building that was something else, then on one far side was a single door with a Freemason sign above it.

Needless to say, it caused my roommates and I to constantly watch to see if any secret meetings were going on, but to our disappointment, there was nothing of the sort (that we know of). However, my roommate was convinced they are shady, so he bought a book on Freemason conspiracies just to be safe in case they for some reason decided to come across the street and attack us.
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My gramps was a 47th degree Freemason. I had no idea until his funeral. It was cool watchin them do their thing there, they had their own little ceramony in the middle of it.

Nothing crazy but cool lookin stuff.
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The highest conferred level one can obtain is the 33rd degree. If you have never seen a masonic funeral, it is very beautiful.
haha...maybe it was 32nd degree. Those rhyme right?

But he was a Freemason, and pretty high up.
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My goal is to eventually become a Shriner. It has become a great deal easier to become one since when I was "raised" as a 3rd degree Master Mason, but I don't have the time to put into it at this point in my life.
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I was hoping this thread would never come up. I am a Freemason. SK, feel free to PM me about any questions you may have. Being a member of the military is not a 100% guarantee, but I will tell you that what I know of you from the conversations we have had here, I know of nothing that would keep you from becoming a Mason. I certainly won't discuss any of the "secrets" of Freemasonry here as I took an oath saying I would not.

Lions, it is actually quite simple to apply for membership as a Freemason; one needs merely to ask a Freemason to become a member, which in turn starts an application process. This process is then explained thoroughly to the applicant. I have no problem discussing what information I can with anyone here, but I will ask everyone to remain respectful. I am sure everyone will be mature in doing so and I thank you in advance.
I'm just curious to know whether I would want to join. Can you guys sort of explain to us what joining would accomplish/mean or is that a "secret"?
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Yeah Ive been somewhat curious about what they are all about also or maybe joining. What is the real benefit to joining? How serious is it? How much time do you need to commit?

I feel like there is a lot of miscommuncation about the freemasons that are not straightened out because of their secrecy.
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Come on CJ, spill the secrets. They can't find out it's you. It's not like your screen name is your real name or any-- oh.
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Ever since I saw that special about it on NBC I have been curious about joining. There are 3 lodges in my hometown. I've heard the initiation process is strange.
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As far as I know the Bilderberg Group has much more power than the Freemasons. The CFR and the Trilateral Commission are others that come to mind.
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Sounds like a fraternity for old people minus the booze and girls.
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Or is it a fraternity for old people with even MORE booze and girls? With a dash of ****** obviously.
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As for the "secrets" that you refer to, the only secrets the Masonic Organization holds are those means by which one Mason may identify another.

The same way a member of SWDC may refer to "T.I.D.D.'s" epic posts to identify who has knowledge of those posts and who has knowledge of the past of this site. That isn't really a secret per say. With persistence and a library card you could come by much of the same Masonic knowledge I possess, but I won't share it with you unless I am sure you are a brother Mason and if you use that knowledge incorrectly, I'm going to know.

It is because of that secrecy, there are many mis-truths out there about Freemasonry. As for the benefits of being a brother Mason and being a member of a "Lodge", you will never wish to experience them yourself in a self-promoting fashion. the tenants of Freemasonry are Brotherhood, Charity and Truth. Passing those gifts to your fellow brother and fellow man for that matter are the greatest benefit a Mason can receive. As for time constraints financial dues and seriousness, those vary depending on how involved you become within your lodge. Your average lodge meets for 2 hours twice a month and usually sponsors some event, be it a clothing drive, spaghetti feed, etc every month.

Dues run 50$ a year on average with other expenditures being required for different various functions of ones choice. For example, "Shriners" must pay for their uniform and other costs relating to their services. As for seriousness is concerned, I take my business as a Mason very serious as well as those tenants that Freemasonry is built upon, but I think from my history here, I am not so serious that I can not "cut-up" and have some fun. Being a Mason does not mean you are an automatic "stick in the mud."
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He was clearly talking about communism.
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He was clearly talking about communism.


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Response, CJ? ;)
Sure, I'll respond. If I am not mistaken, in that speech Kennedy is speaking about "secret and hidden" agendas within our own government. Remember he our nation's first Catholic president and many feared that Pope would be running the White House. I'm really not a foremost authority on the political maneuverings of the 1960's (yeah, I'm so old I had already started going senile by that time).
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