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-Mike Wallace
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-tie between Hakeem Nicks and Jeremy Maclin
Mike Wallace has been awesome indeed. I really like how he has come in and stepped up big for the Steelers. He is so ridiculously fast it isn't even fair. As he gets more and more involved with the offense, he will be able to truly shine.

I would give the OROY to Harvin as of right now though.
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Crap, I knew I forgot some stuff. I wanted to talk about Jay Ratliff and Vincent Jackson.

Oh well, I'll save them for next time.
I have been meaning to bring this up somewhere as well. Every time I have watched the Cowboys, Ratliff has far and away been the most impressive player on that defense. From what I understand, he has been playing out of position at NT, but if I were the Cowboys, Id never move him, cause hes a force to be reckoned with. I have seen about 5 Cowboys games this year, and Ratliff has been lights out in all of them.
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Vincent Jackson is the new Plaxico Burress. The guy is a monster. He runs great routes, hes huge, he's strong, he's an incredible deep threat.

You just have to throw it up there. Their entire pass game is literally jump ball. Its almost impossible to defend. Whoever has single coverage, Rivers just has to throw it up to them.

Its a deadly passing attack.

Jay Ratliff is the new Darnell Dockett. In fact, he's identical to Dockett. They're the same player. I felt Dockett was the most underrated DT in the game last year, Ratliff is the most underrated DT in the game this year.

He's identical to Dockett. He'd be even better at DE in the 3-4, just like Dockett.
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On that note, I want to hear from someone more medically educated than I am, but from what I know from basketball, Microfracture is always a serious surgery for a guy that relies on his athletic ability like Reggie does, but the usual deal is, it's 1 year of rehab and recovery, and then they can start playing, but you don't expect the knee to be back to 100% until around 2 years after the surgery.

I've never seen a player play until at LEAST the 1 year mark. Reggie had his surgery in mid-december of 2008, and he was back in june of 2009, that's not even 7 months. Is this a good sign that he recovered faster than expected, or did he come back too soon?

Granted he still is explosive, but he doesn't look quite as quick as he did last season before he got injured, when he was leading the league in touchdowns....

I guess we'll see what happens, but the Saints still seem to be being very cautious about it, because he gets taken from the game completely once we are ahead, and even when he starts out running well, they still don't feed him the ball when he looks to be flowing.
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i can't really speak on it as an expert, but players almost never come back from microfracture surgery with the same explosion.

from what i've seen. i could be wrong.

Kenny Phillips had the same surgery to correct a potentially career ending injury. So I'm also concerned about its long term effects.
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I was kinda worried, then Reggie dove to the endzone from like 25 feet out, but I can't help but worry about him coming back that soon. I know Greg Oden, Amare Stoudemire, Chris Webber, and Jason Kidd all came back at just about the 1 year mark.
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BBD, no mention of Raymell baby? :(

and Bengals need to give Leonard more touches. they did last week, he's a damn good runner.
Fun fact: he outscored Jonathan Stewart in fantasy football this past week.
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I was kinda worried, then Reggie dove to the endzone from like 25 feet out, but I can't help but worry about him coming back that soon. I know Greg Oden, Amare Stoudemire, Chris Webber, and Jason Kidd all came back at just about the 1 year mark.
None were ever the same after that surgery too. Even Amare. Amare was an absolute monster before his surgery. I thought he'd be the next best thing at PF.

But that surgery killed his explosion. He's not the same anymore.

Bush is still explosive. But not as much as he used to be. In a way its good for him, now he has to use some vision instead of trying to burn the edge every time.
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and Bengals need to give Leonard more touches. they did last week, he's a damn good runner.
Fun fact: he outscored Jonathan Stewart in fantasy football this past week.
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just typing his name out would give me premature ejaculation. so i tried refraining.

i don't know how you do it Scotty. unless youre ok with it happening.
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Vincent Jackson is like Plaxico Burress, minus the attitude problems and the poor catch %.
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just typing his name out would give me premature ejaculation. so i tried refraining.

i don't know how you do it Scotty. unless youre ok with it happening.
every time I post makes me change my pants.
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Nice write up. I'm going to comment on what you said about bye weeks in the playoffs. I agree. And you should know all about this. See 2001(?) NFC Championship game. Vikings vs Giants. Giants won 41-0. I would be just fine with Vikings having the 3rd seed in the NFC this year. I have a feeling they will crumple late. If they get the bye, they will crumple in the divisional round.
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People keep saying that about Amare, but I disagree, his best and most efficient season (at the basket and overall) was post surgery.

Right now he looks less explosive, but before the eye injury, he was scorching, but after that he had to lay flat on his stomach for like months to drain his eye... He hasn't been able to regain his explosion, but he did return to form post-surgery.

Like I said though, Reggie seems close enough now, that I'm comfortable that he'll be much better at this same point next season. I'm still worried about long term impact it could have IF he rushed back.
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Having that said, theyre not the only team in the NFL with a roadgrading oline and 2 great backs. I mean, to me, Carolina SCREAMS wildcat, and they don't use it that much.

I think plenty of teams can use it, they just have to be more committed to practicing it. You can't just practice it a couple of times in practice a week and expect to do it well. It has to be preached and practiced just like anything else.

Im a believer in the wildcat. I think its only going to get better.
I wonder what would happen if the Raiders decided to forget about Jamarcus Russell and go with a Wildhog with Darren McFadden, Justin Fargas and Michael Bush.

If the Bills had a better line they would be ideal for the Wildcat as well.
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and Bengals need to give Leonard more touches. they did last week, he's a damn good runner.
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I was gonna make a thoughts thread, but decided it was a waste because I only had one.

Brett Kern is the goddam MVP.

His record with the Broncos? 6-0.
His record with the Titans? 2-0.

Broncos record since he left? 0-2.
Titans record before he arrived? 0-6.

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People keep saying that about Amare, but I disagree, his best and most efficient season (at the basket and overall) was post surgery.

Right now he looks less explosive, but before the eye injury, he was scorching, but after that he had to lay flat on his stomach for like months to drain his eye... He hasn't been able to regain his explosion, but he did return to form post-surgery.

Like I said though, Reggie seems close enough now, that I'm comfortable that he'll be much better at this same point next season. I'm still worried about long term impact it could have IF he rushed back.
I think the year thing works. Explosion might not FULLY return, but in the case of Bush and Amare, they have explosion to spare. How's Oden looking this season btw? He's a year removed now. Last year he just looked sluggish out there and since he was used to being so quick I think that accounts for most of his foul problems from last season.
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Vincent Jackson is the new Plaxico Burress. The guy is a monster. He runs great routes, hes huge, he's strong, he's an incredible deep threat.

You just have to throw it up there. Their entire pass game is literally jump ball. Its almost impossible to defend. Whoever has single coverage, Rivers just has to throw it up to them.

Its a deadly passing attack.

Jay Ratliff is the new Darnell Dockett. In fact, he's identical to Dockett. They're the same player. I felt Dockett was the most underrated DT in the game last year, Ratliff is the most underrated DT in the game this year.

He's identical to Dockett. He'd be even better at DE in the 3-4, just like Dockett.
Never made the connection to Dockett... Always admired Dockett from afar... Nice to know I got someone like him in my back pocket. ;)

APS, Dallas lately has started to move Ratliff all along the DL. It's been working like a charm.
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This sums up the Raiders.



To steal from Bill Simmons, ladies and gentlemen, your 2009 Oakland Raiders!


Just imagine what Ratliff would do with a real NT next to him.
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I was gonna make a thoughts thread, but decided it was a waste because I only had one.

Brett Kern is the goddam MVP.

His record with the Broncos? 6-0.
His record with the Titans? 2-0.

Broncos record since he left? 0-2.
Titans record before he arrived? 0-6.

...the ****?
This is the most important fact that no one knows about. I was thinking about how much I missed Kern last night. Berger is aweful now :(
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I agree about Benson. I am somewhat biased, though, in that I think he's just doomed to be a flash in the plan regardless of how many carries he gets. He's gonna tank any second now. The guy was flat out garbage every single season until this one.

Also, I'm not sure I'd say Dockett and Ratliff are the same players.

Ratliff is one of a kind IMO. The guy is probably under 290 but he's a phenomenal nose tackle because he's so incredibly strong and fierce. The insane thing about him is he is legitimately athletic enough to play 3-4 linebacker. I've never seen a nose tackle who is in pursuit past the second level so often.

Ratliff is just incredible. He's definitely a top 10 defender in the league IMO.

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All you need to know is Rice is a freaking beast, he goes 100% and doesnt stop moving on the inside runs, he is possibly the most elusive player in the open field he can catch out of the backfield. The reason he had a bad game against Bengals was because they dominated the LOS so he had no where to run, and Hall/Joseph were able to shut down our WR 1 on 1 so they were planning for his screens out of the backfield. He is a beast
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I agree about Benson. I am somewhat biased, though, in that I think he's just doomed to be a flash in the plan regardless of how many carries he gets. He's gonna tank any second now. The guy was flat out garbage every single season until this one.
That's not a good way to look at it I don't think. He was terrible in Chicago sure, but so was every player on Chicago's offense. He was excellent at Texas, there was a reason he was drafted in the top 5.

He's always had the talent, it just never came out. Some guys develop slow. I wouldn't expect any slowdown from him.
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I agree about Benson. I am somewhat biased, though, in that I think he's just doomed to be a flash in the plan regardless of how many carries he gets. He's gonna tank any second now. The guy was flat out garbage every single season until this one.

Also, I'm not sure I'd say Dockett and Ratliff are the same players.

Ratliff is one of a kind IMO. The guy is probably under 290 but he's a phenomenal nose tackle because he's so incredibly strong and fierce. The insane thing about him is he is legitimately athletic enough to play 3-4 linebacker. I've never seen a nose tackle who is in pursuit past the second level so often.

Ratliff is just incredible. He's definitely a top 10 defender in the league IMO.
Dockett has played some NT for the Cardinals as well.

I think theyre pretty much the same player. Dockett might be a little stronger, Ratliff a little quicker.
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