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Old 11-12-2009, 06:31 PM    (permalink
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im gonna kill myself if Favre wins CPotY
I doubt it, Cedric Benson has got that locked up.
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I doubt it, Cedric Benson has got that locked up.
Yeah right, it will be Brady. It's a media award, remember?

also it's not like Cedric is coming back to anything...it's closer to a breakout than anything else, and there is no award for that.
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I'm a big fan of Benson, but what is he coming back from? He played well towards the end of last year and has taken a huge step forward this year. It's not like he was completely awful or injured last year. Same with Favre. Why does he get a "comeback" award just because he was terrible in the final five games last year? It's not like he was terrible the whole season.
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im gonna kill myself if Favre wins CPotY
I wouldn't go that far, but how the **** is he even eligible? To me you have to actually come back from something to be eligible for this award, and that doesn't include your own indecisiveness.

Favre has played 16 games for how many seasons now? What makes him any more eligible than say Manning? I mean both played 16 games, both were "injured" last year, both are playing better than last year.

If Brady doesn't win CPoTY I would be surprised, he has comeback from a real injury and is playing well. Benson sort of loses votes for me because he came back from his self inflicted problems last year, but is also a decent candidate. I'm sure there are other guys that slip my mind that deserve a mention here, Favre though is not one of them.
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I wouldn't go that far, but how the **** is he even eligible? To me you have to actually come back from something to be eligible for this award, and that doesn't include your own indecisiveness.

Favre has played 16 games for how many seasons now? What makes him any more eligible than say Manning? I mean both played 16 games, both were "injured" last year, both are playing better than last year.

If Brady doesn't win CPoTY I would be surprised, he has comeback from a real injury and is playing well. Benson sort of loses votes for me because he came back from his self inflicted problems last year, but is also a decent candidate. I'm sure there are other guys that slip my mind that deserve a mention here, Favre though is not one of them.
At least Favre is coming off bicep surgery in his throwing arm, Benson is coming off being terrible most of his career and that's it.
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Brady should win the CPOTY and MVP and OPOY and DPOY award every year.
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what about Carson Palmer. sure he hasn't been as stellar as his best seasons, but he's still doing quite good after missing all season last year. Anyway he's still got time to earn it more.
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"The player named Comeback Player of the Year shows perseverance in overcoming adversity, in the form of not being in the NFL the previous year, a severe injury, or simply poor performance."
I stand by that Favre has come back from none of them, hell people had him as an MVP candidate at the halfway point last year. Being a pompous indecisive dickhead is not adversity, no matter how much you stretch the definition and I will stand by that.

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See the pansy police will say that overcoming alcohol problems is a comeback. For me if you have problems with alcohol, don't drink it, it's not a difficult equation. That said, apparently people who can overcome their own stupidity relating to alcohol deserve respect and accolades. That said, Benson has also come back from being stupid enough to get himself kicked off a team to be one of the best backs this season.

Still... that one is Brady's to lose. I like to think that EJ Henderson should get a bit of love on this one as well. He has overcome a knee injury also to once again be a very good MLB for a good defense.
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and by that you mean being an attention ***** right? Because last time I checked, to be retired would involve not playing the sport.

It's just as well he is winning games or this would be the most unbearable season as a Vikings fan ever, just can't stand Favre and what he stands for not to mention the attention that he gets.
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Nuh uh, the bolts are drafting Trent Williams to play RT across from McNeill so there.

Seriously though I love Oher and came pretty close to throwing the remote when he was passed in favor of Larry English. Who I also love, but let's be real.

Oher should be OROY
If Clady didn't win OROY last year, there is no way that Oher should win it this year.
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If Clady didn't win OROY last year, there is no way that Oher should win it this year.
That doesn't make sense though.


If Mark Sanchez was having a rookie year as good as Matt Ryan did last year Oher wouldn't have a chance either. You can't compare rookies one season to the next then ignore the competition they had to compete against to win the award.
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If Clady didn't win OROY last year, there is no way that Oher should win it this year.
Oher isn't up against a couple of QBs who turned around teams though either. At the moment Harvin is probably the front runner due to the skill position bias, hard to argue that Harvin has been better than Oher though.

Actually a tightly contested battle for both O and D RoY awards. Byrd doesn't get enough press on what has been a surprisingly good Bills defense, he has been Sharperesque for them.
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If Clady didn't win OROY last year, there is no way that Oher should win it this year.
Well if Marcus McNeill didn't win it in 2006 paving the way for LT's 31 touchdowns, there is no way Clady was going to win it in 08. :D
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Holy crap, Jared Allen has 10 1/2 sacks already this year? What a gd beast. Nice re-signing of LJ btw Carl..
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Holy crap, Jared Allen has 10 1/2 sacks already this year? What a gd beast. Nice re-signing of LJ btw Carl..
It is amazing to see all of these ex-Chiefs blowing up elsewhere:

Jared Allen
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Even Ryan Sims had a sack and Kris Wilson had a TD last week!
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Even Ryan Sims had a sack and Kris Wilson had a TD last week!
The bolded names are players that most Chiefs fans expected to do well elsewhere. The other two are a surprise though.
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Nuh uh, the bolts are drafting Trent Williams to play RT across from McNeill so there.

Seriously though I love Oher and came pretty close to throwing the remote when he was passed in favor of Larry English. Who I also love, but let's be real.

Oher should be OROY
We're pretty much set at tackle. The only olineman I could see us picking up would be center with Nick's injury and Mooch's performance so far.
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TBH I think it's deserving for Oher. Maybe it's not fair for the other vets since he has such a small window of film on him but I think far and away Oher is the best O-lineman on the Ravens and that's saying a whole lot considering they have also dominant Jared Gaither and Ben Grubbs. I really can't recall watching Oher on a play in which he struggled. I truly think he can be at a damn high level on either side of the line and right now he is playing like he should have been a top 5 pick. He's really the only Ravens O-lineman who doesn't collapse under pressure. Even Gaither struggles at times when he has to pick up blitzes. Oher just gets it. It's a shame though because no matter what he does in his career people will always say it's because of his story, and even if he becomes a pro bowler soon in his career all people still will ever talk about is his story.
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Old 11-13-2009, 07:38 AM    (permalink
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I doubt it, Cedric Benson has got that locked up.
This isn't the Most Improved Player Award.
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Brady should win the CPOTY and MVP and OPOY and DPOY award every year.
I was nodding agreement until that last one. But, **** it. He's Tom ******* Brady. Just give him the damn DPOY, too.


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Holy crap, Jared Allen has 10 1/2 sacks already this year? What a gd beast. Nice re-signing of LJ btw Carl..
With more than half against the pathetic combo of a bad GBay Oline & Aaron "I'll never throw it away!" Rodgers . . .
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Old 11-13-2009, 09:19 AM    (permalink
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TBH I think it's deserving for Oher. Maybe it's not fair for the other vets since he has such a small window of film on him but I think far and away Oher is the best O-lineman on the Ravens and that's saying a whole lot considering they have also dominant Jared Gaither and Ben Grubbs. I really can't recall watching Oher on a play in which he struggled. I truly think he can be at a damn high level on either side of the line and right now he is playing like he should have been a top 5 pick. He's really the only Ravens O-lineman who doesn't collapse under pressure. Even Gaither struggles at times when he has to pick up blitzes. Oher just gets it. It's a shame though because no matter what he does in his career people will always say it's because of his story, and even if he becomes a pro bowler soon in his career all people still will ever talk about is his story.
Exactly the guy is a freaking beast, my favorite part of Oher is that he is so mean, he is probably the meanest o-lineman on the team
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It is amazing to see all of these ex-Chiefs blowing up elsewhere:

Jared Allen
Tony Gonzalez
Keyaron Fox
Kawika Mitchell
Bernard Pollard

Even Ryan Sims had a sack and Kris Wilson had a TD last week!

Next up; LJ.
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