The Eagles will not recover

[D-Unit]

On my iPhone so I'll be brief. No where did I spin anything about the Eagles having inferior talent. Ok, have a nice day. :)

[Sniper]

Originally Posted by D-Unit

I could be wrong, but I thought Kolb looked pretty impressive in the time he had. At least you had your full playbook open.

I can't always trust you guys. You said Dawkins was washed up when he left Philly. He's been a big part of the turnaround of the Denver D.

I never said he was washed up. I just said his role changed dramatically from a coverage FS to a LOS SS. His coverage isn't anywhere near where it used to be.

[LonghornsLegend]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

D has made a pretty damn convincing argument. For the Giants sake, I hope he's right, bc I do NOT want to see the Eagles in the postseason if we make it to the playoffs.

We can almost guarantee there will be at least one NFC east matchup in the playoffs again this year, seems like it always happens and for that reason is why I never feel good about sweeping an NFC east team during the regular season because we know how hard that is to do 3 times.

[D-Unit]

One week down. Prediction in check.

[Todd Bertuzzi]

Originally Posted by D-Unit

One week down. Prediction in check.

Two weeks down. Prediction looking shaky. Week 14 is shaping up to be a huge game with big playoff implications.

[superman8456]

Originally Posted by Todd Bertuzzi

Two weeks down. Prediction looking shaky. Week 14 is shaping up to be a huge game with big playoff implications.

Eagles going up against a Falcons team that might be without Matt Ryan and Michael Turner.

[D-Unit]

Originally Posted by Todd Bertuzzi

Two weeks down. Prediction looking shaky. Week 14 is shaping up to be a huge game with big playoff implications.

Actually, I said you'd win these last 2 games. ;)

The way the Giants are looking though, they are making me look bad. LOL.

[Thumper]

This prediction is skating on thin Ice, your main point was how the Giants would come back and how injuries were piling up for the Eagles (mainly Westbrook). But the Giants have for some reason or another just hit a brick wall that they can't get over and the Cowboys have struggled 2 of the last 3 weeks.

And like I tried to tell you earlier in this thread Westbrook is hardly as important as he used to be, in the 5 games Westy has missed LeSean McCoy has rushed for 395 yards at an average of 4.8 YPC and has collected 105 receiving yards at 8.75 yards a catch, that is 500 all purpose yards in 5 games and he has scored 3 times and converted a 2 point conversion. And Leonard Weaver has 161 rushing yards at 6.44 YPC and he has a TD as well. When you look at the duo that has been responsible for replacing Westbrook they've rushed for 556 yards and 4 touchdowns in 5 games without Westbrook. They're not really missing him, in fact in games where Westbrook doesn't play the Eagles are 4-1.

[Todd Bertuzzi]

Originally Posted by D-Unit

Actually, I said you'd win these last 2 games. ;)

The way the Giants are looking though, they are making me look bad. LOL.

Yeah that's more what I was referring to lol. To be fair you thought Orton would be out so that does change a lot.

[D-Unit]

Originally Posted by Thumper

This prediction is skating on thin Ice, your main point was how the Giants would come back and how injuries were piling up for the Eagles (mainly Westbrook). But the Giants have for some reason or another just hit a brick wall that they can't get over and the Cowboys have struggled 2 of the last 3 weeks.

And like I tried to tell you earlier in this thread Westbrook is hardly as important as he used to be, in the 5 games Westy has missed LeSean McCoy has rushed for 395 yards at an average of 4.8 YPC and has collected 105 receiving yards at 8.75 yards a catch, that is 500 all purpose yards in 5 games and he has scored 3 times and converted a 2 point conversion. And Leonard Weaver has 161 rushing yards at 6.44 YPC and he has a TD as well. When you look at the duo that has been responsible for replacing Westbrook they've rushed for 556 yards and 4 touchdowns in 5 games without Westbrook. They're not really missing him, in fact in games where Westbrook doesn't play the Eagles are 4-1.

Don't worry about it man. The Giants ran into a tough Denver team, but they might beat the Cowboys and that wouldn't surprise a smart man. Then that wall you speak of is all of a sudden not such a wall after all. 2-1 after the bye? I'm more worried about Eli's injury.

Regardless, this isn't about the Giants anyway. They could miss the playoffs and it still wouldn't have much to do about this thread since this is about the Eagles finishing 9-7 and out of the playoffs.

[Thumper]

My money is on the Eagles closing the season 4-1 (wins against the Falcons, Broncos, 49ers and Cowboys loss to the Giants) and the Cowboys finishing 2-3 (with losses to the Saints, Chargers and Eagles wins against Redskins and Giants). The Eagles stretch run is easier than the Cowboys stretch run IMO because they have to go against 5 very tough teams

Obviously the week 17 game is going to be very important because the Eagles and Cowboys could both easily be heading into that game with 11-4 records.

[D-Unit]

Originally Posted by Thumper

My money is on the Eagles closing the season 4-1 (wins against the Falcons, Broncos, 49ers and Cowboys loss to the Giants) and the Cowboys finishing 2-3 (with losses to the Saints, Chargers and Eagles wins against Redskins and Giants). The Eagles stretch run is easier than the Cowboys stretch run IMO because they have to go against 5 very tough teams

Obviously the week 17 game is going to be very important because the Eagles and Cowboys could both easily be heading into that game with 11-4 records.

Desean Jackson can't afford any more tough hits. Sad to see for such a young player, but his size was always a concern anyways, so it's not surprising. He's not built to go across the middle. Keeping him healthy is a MUST if you plan on going 4-1.

You WILL NOT be 11-4 heading into the Cowboys game. You WILL NOT!

[superman8456]

Originally Posted by D-Unit

Desean Jackson can't afford any more tough hits. Sad to see for such a young player, but his size was always a concern anyways, so it's not surprising. He's not built to go across the middle. Keeping him healthy is a MUST if you plan on going 4-1.

You WILL NOT be 11-4 heading into the Cowboys game. You WILL NOT!

He hasnt missed a game yet in his career and has shown to be extremely durable for his lack of "size". I think he will be fine and his career is not in peril.

11-4 is definitely in reach for this Eagles team. I would mark San Francisco and Falcons down as both wins right now.

[Thumper]

you never know, with games against Falcons (without Ryan or Turner), 49ers, Broncos and Giants a 4-0 run isn't that crazy, especially considering this is the time of year the Eagles always get hot.

And I knew someone was going to fault DeSean Jackson for getting hurt... He has went over the middle for 2 seasons and has done just fine and he would have been just fine, in fact his frame took no damage from the hit by London Fletcher. His size has nothing to do with the fact that London Fletcher led with his helmet and concussed him, no matter what size the receiver is they would've been concussed with that helmet to helmet contact by Fletcher. And you act like he is done for the season, it was a very minor concussion and he might play against Atlanta and he will most definitely play against the Broncos.

[D-Unit]

Originally Posted by Thumper

you never know, with games against Falcons (without Ryan or Turner), 49ers, Broncos and Giants a 4-0 run isn't that crazy, especially considering this is the time of year the Eagles always get hot.

And I knew someone was going to fault DeSean Jackson for getting hurt... He has went over the middle for 2 seasons and has done just fine and he would have been just fine, in fact his frame took no damage from the hit by London Fletcher. His size has nothing to do with the fact that London Fletcher led with his helmet and concussed him, no matter what size the receiver is they would've been concussed with that helmet to helmet contact by Fletcher. And you act like he is done for the season, it was a very minor concussion and he might play against Atlanta and he will most definitely play against the Broncos.

A "minor" concussion is a concussion that happens to somebody else. If it happens to you, it ain't minor. LOL. Seriously though, he's too young to be experiencing concussions already. I hope he never has another one, but the reality is contrary to that.

[D-Unit]

Originally Posted by superman8456

He hasnt missed a game yet in his career and has shown to be extremely durable for his lack of "size". I think he will be fine and his career is not in peril.

11-4 is definitely in reach for this Eagles team. I would mark San Francisco and Falcons down as both wins right now.

You barely squeezed out a win against the Redskins in your own house... Now you're chest bumping about how you have 4 straight wins lined up??? C'mon now.

I will agree that the Falcons and SF look beatable though. I didn't foresee Matt Ryan and Michael Turner not playing. That looks like it will change things.

[Todd Bertuzzi]

Originally Posted by D-Unit

You barely squeezed out a win against the Redskins in your own house... Now you're chest bumping about how you have 4 straight wins lined up??? C'mon now.

I will agree that the Falcons and SF look beatable though. I didn't foresee Matt Ryan and Michael Turner not playing. That looks like it will change things.

See: Cowboys/Redskins, week 11

[superman8456]

Originally Posted by D-Unit

You barely squeezed out a win against the Redskins in your own house... Now you're chest bumping about how you have 4 straight wins lined up??? C'mon now.
Dont you feel the least bit hypocritical? I mean we won by more than 1 point, right?

I will agree that the Falcons and SF look beatable though. I didn't foresee Matt Ryan and Michael Turner not playing. That looks like it will change things.

Dallas still has at the Giants, at the Saints, and at the Redskins they have to go through, along with playing the seemingly hot Chargers.

[Thumper]

Originally Posted by D-Unit

You barely squeezed out a win against the Redskins in your own house... Now you're chest bumping about how you have 4 straight wins lined up??? C'mon now.

I will agree that the Falcons and SF look beatable though. I didn't foresee Matt Ryan and Michael Turner not playing. That looks like it will change things.

Hey, a win is a win no matter what. This isn't the BCS, style points don't matter. The Eagles beat the Redskins and so did the Cowboys. And in case you forgot the Cowboys barely slipped out of their house with a win as well.

And we're not chest thumping, the Falcons are missing their best players and their secondary is awful, I think it is fair to assume that game is probably an Eagles win. The Broncos are a tough team but nothing the Eagles can't handle, that is going to be tough. The 49ers is a very winnable game. The Eagles have beaten the Giants three times in a row and they're a worse team than they were last season. The Cowboys game could definitely be winnable, the teams are very evenly matched and anyone could win that. I don't think it is out of the realm of possibility that the Eagles could finish 5-0 but I doubt it, again I am more confident the Eagles can finish 4-1 with an 11-5 record rather than 5-0 with a 12-4 record which would probably take a ton of luck to beat all 5 of those teams in consecutive weeks.

[D-Unit]

Originally Posted by superman8456

Dallas still has at the Giants, at the Saints, and at the Redskins they have to go through, along with playing the seemingly hot Chargers.

No because Dallas only has to win 2 more games to make it to the playoffs. You guys need to win 3, and since I don't think you're winning in Dallas, that means you need to win 3 out of the next 4. ...with the next 2 on the road. Tough. 9-7 is your fate. Green Bay is taking the Wild card away from you.

[D-Unit]

Originally Posted by Todd Bertuzzi

See: Cowboys/Redskins, week 11

Exactly. We already broke their hearts before they got to you. Several Redskins players said that was the toughest loss they ever had. We broke them in half. You should've given them a worse beat down considering they were byside waste.

If I used your logic to compare wins, then what say you of the Raiders?

[Todd Bertuzzi]

Originally Posted by D-Unit

Exactly. We already broke their hearts before they got to you. Several Redskins players said that was the toughest loss they ever had. We broke them in half. You should've given them a worse beat down considering they were byside waste.

If I used your logic to compare wins, then what say you of the Raiders?

The point is that a win is a win and a loss is a loss.

[D-Unit]

Originally Posted by Todd Bertuzzi

The point is that a win is a win and a loss is a loss.

...and you have to admit. This thread helps make your season and this forum more fun to talk.

So you're welcome. :D

[Thumper]

Originally Posted by D-Unit

No because Dallas only has to win 2 more games to make it to the playoffs. You guys need to win 3, and since I don't think you're winning in Dallas, that means you need to win 3 out of the next 4. ...with the next 2 on the road. Tough. 9-7 is your fate. Green Bay is taking the Wild card away from you.

Ummm... there are two wildcard teams and currently holding those spots are the 7-4 Eagles and the 7-4 Packers the teams behind them are the Falcons who are limping down the final stretch and the Giants who are rapidly sinking.

And you keep bringing up the whole road thing, but the Eagles play the Falcons who are missing Matt Ryan, Michael Turner and have an injured Jerious Norwood, Roddy White and Sam Baker. And the Eagles have won two straight at the meadowlands and the Eagles have won 3 straight against them. After that the Eagles play at home against the Broncos and 49ers and then they go down to Dallas for what could be the division title.

[Todd Bertuzzi]

Originally Posted by D-Unit

...and you have to admit. This thread helps make your season and this forum more fun to talk.

So you're welcome. :D

It will be even more fun in week 17 when the Eagles beat the Cowboys and you are forced to eat crow! :D