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Old 11-18-2009, 05:29 PM    (permalink
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Raiders coach Tom Cable said Wednesday he is removing JaMarcus Russell as the team's starting quarterback.

Bruce Gradkowski will take over as the team's starter. Coach Tom Cable called the move an "easy decision." (Via RaiderBeat.com.)

Russell has led the Raiders to a 2-7 start, and Cable has remained patient and publicly confident in the 2007 No. 1 overall draft pick until now. Gradkowski relieved Russell in last Sunday's 16-10 loss to the Chiefs.
JaWalrus might be finished finally in Oakland!
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raiders pick a qb in first round next year or will they trade for one?
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Only QB Id want is Clausen, maybe sign a QB like Kellen Clemens, Davis Carr...
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Russell might be a lame duck there but Cable is probably a lamer duck. The new guy will look around and wont see anything better than JaMarcus and figure he can get the guy to produce (they always do). Probably dont see them pulling the trigger on a QB in round 1 this time around.
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Russell to the Raiders first overall was pretty much doomed from the moment the pick happened.
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The only person shocked by this move is JaMarcus Russell.
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The only person shocked by this move is JaMarcus Russell.
True dat. I love his recent quotes from games this season. Saying it was his fault they lost when he goes like 7 for 25. Last game I admit the WR's dropped passes. But the games before he could even hit the WRs
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Russell to the Raiders first overall was pretty much doomed from the moment the pick happened.
if russell had a cutler/rivers attitude to go along with his poor play, how could he not challenge ryan leaf as one of the biggest bust of all time.

I guess Leaf had a much bigger following than Jamarcus. I don't remember anyone specifically that thought Jamarcus would turn out all-bowl status.
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Well, him and Al Davis....
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Quinn for Russell in the offseason! Worlds most worthless trade.
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I do remember, maybe a day before the NFL Draft, some guy posted that Al Davis signed Brady Quinn to a contract and cited some local article as evidence.

Just popped into my cranium.
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if russell had a cutler/rivers attitude to go along with his poor play, how could he not challenge ryan leaf as one of the biggest bust of all time.

I guess Leaf had a much bigger following than Jamarcus. I don't remember anyone specifically that thought Jamarcus would turn out all-bowl status.
I think there is an absolute zero where guys like Ryan, Russell, Couch etc. all reside...guys who for whatever reason ultimately contributed absolutely nothing.

Worth pointing out that for all the 'zomg biggest bust ever' talk, Leaf wasn't drafted #1 like turdbucket here.
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Let Jamarcus play at his natural weight as a nose tackle. 400lbs nose tackle? Whats not to love
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Just embarrassing for JaMarcus. I have no idea where his career is headed, if there's even an upside for him to strive for.

How can a guy considered a consensus top 3 pick be so AWFUL?? Not bad or inconsistent, but look like someone who hasn't played QB since HS??
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He must've read Aaron Schatz's column in the new ESPN magazine. Pages 9-10 for those looking for it.

Yeah, I made a joke and a promo for ESPN Mag all in the same post.
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At this point, our season is done. We might as well leave the guy in there. Although he's been terrible so far,he hasn't had the benefit of an adequate offensive line or a running game to protect him.
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If anyone suggests he be turned into a situational pass rusher as well, I swear I will scream.
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I think there is an absolute zero where guys like Ryan, Russell, Couch etc. all reside...guys who for whatever reason ultimately contributed absolutely nothing.

Worth pointing out that for all the 'zomg biggest bust ever' talk, Leaf wasn't drafted #1 like turdbucket here.
Russell wasn't in the draft with Peyton Manning.
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I think Russel will get a second chance elsewhere. If he sucks there, then we can label him a bust.
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It's really pitiful to watch DHB play, yea Russell sucks but come on, your really asking him to suceed with a well below average O-line, and his starting WR's Louis Murphy and DHB? Who has ever had a WR core that pitiful as your top 2 guys? I actually love Murphy's long term potential but he's coming from a spread gimmick offense and your throwing him out there from day one.


DHB has no tools what so ever to play WR yet, he runs one route all game, and he looks so uncomfortable trying to catch the deep pass. It baffles me that a fast 40 made them take him over Crabtree, who missed all of mini camps, TC, pre-season, and months of the regular season and stepped in poised, and if I'm not mistaken had more production in one game then DHB had the entire season thus far.


Situations like those are why you shouldn't expect ANY QB in Oakland to suceed, now watch them draft Ryan Mallett way too high and the same thing happen all over again. It's really sad that Al Davis can have control over the team and not even use a scouting report.


He just has a sheet printed out with all the 40 times and checks off the names as their drafted, nobody really understood the DHB pick at the time but after watching him and Crabtree, and considering you needed a WR to start it baffles me they picked the guy who was a track star instead of the real football player.
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But was in the draft with Calvin Johnson, Adrian Peterson, Joe Thomas, Ryan Clady, Patrick Willis, Darrelle Revis, Michael Griffin to name a few....
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But was in the draft with Calvin Johnson, Adrian Peterson, Joe Thomas, Ryan Clady, Patrick Willis, Darrelle Revis, Michael Griffin to name a few....
Right, but the next best QB was Brady Quinn. All of those guys are good to great, but they're not QBs.
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Russel may be terrible but he plays for the damn Raiders. If they had a competent coach and owner, i actually do think that Russel would better that he is. Now mind you i'm not talking all-pro, pro bowler **** but good enough to manage and make throws when necessary.

Russel will catch on as a backup for a team when he leaves the Shithole. Maybe someone will make him decent
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I think Russel will get a second chance elsewhere. If he sucks there, then we can label him a bust.
There's no need. He sucks and can be labeled a bust now.
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