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Old 11-29-2009, 05:50 PM    (permalink
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I'd pick Manning over Favre.

Favre isn't even in the top 10 in passing yards right now. Manning is #1 and averaging 317 YPG. He is carrying that (undefeated) Colts team on his back. Look at the combacks he's pulled off this season as well.

Favre has been very efficient but I don't buy that he's more valuable to the Vikings than Manning is to the Colts. You could put a couple QBs onto the Vikings squad that could do as well or better than Favre. There is no QB you could put onto the Colts to outperform or equal Manning.
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If you added Favre, Manning and CJ, threw them in a blender, multiplied them times infinity, then squared it, i still wouldn't take that over Vince Young. :D

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If the Titans make the playoffs he has a case.
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If the Titans make the playoffs he has a case.
Not if Chris Johnson keeps up his play. 6 straight games with 125+ yards and a YPC well over 5 during that span.
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This is gonna be a very, very tough MVP race. Peyton is playing like he always does, Brett Favre is playing out of his mind, and Chris Johnson is on pace to break 2,000 yards.
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This is gonna be a very, very tough MVP race. Peyton is playing like he always does, Brett Favre is playing out of his mind, and Chris Johnson is on pace to break 2,000 yards.
Actually, Johnson is on pace to fall just short of 2,000 yards. That said, considering the rest of the schedule, I wouldn't be surprised if he manages to do it.
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Actually, Johnson is on pace to fall just short of 2,000 yards. That said, considering the rest of the schedule, I wouldn't be surprised if he manages to do it.
He could go for 300 against the Chargers.

But I think the Cinderella juice runs out against Indy and DQs him. It will be Peyton unless he loses, in which case it will be Favre.
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They said all he needed was 129 and change a game for him to break 2000. His last six games he has never been below 130 rush yards. So...
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Why no Drew Brees ?
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FWIW Dungy took Favre on the SNF halftime report.
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IMO Manning is gonna win the MVP...Farve's been playing great but he's not the heart of the team. Without Manning the Colts wouldn't be much but the Vikings can function without Farve.
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What happened to Drew Brees? Not counting this week (since Manning has played and Brees hasn't) he's played just as well as Peyton and also has an undefeated team. Brees leads in QB rating, is barely behind in completion percentage, has a better yards per attempt, more touchdowns, and the same number of interceptions. Not to mention that the Colts have the #1 ranked defense in football.

I don't like the "well if you take this player away from his team" argument. You can pretty much say that about at least 10-15 players in the league. Sure, take Manning away from the Colts and they are much worse with Jim Sorgi. Anyone think the Saints would still be a good team with Mark Brunell at quarterback? Would the Patriots be as good as they are if you took away Tom Brady and they had to start Brian Hoyer? If we are going to play that game, then I'd say Chris Johnson is the most valuable player in the league. As good as Vince Young has played, that team would be 0-11 if they didn't have Chris Johnson.

Right now Drew Brees is my MVP with Peyton Manning as a very close second. Brett Favre is a distant third, but Chris Johnson will pass him if the Titans keep winning.
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Chris Johnson if Titans make playoffs. If they dont Id take Manning
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Please...saying that the vikings can function without Favre is non-sense. Tavaris Jackson or Sage Rosenfels can't even touch what Favre has done for this team.
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Drew Brees isn't MY Mvp this year. by the traditional(shittay) voting method, he should be though, considering the last few MVPs, but he hasn't been carrying the team like he was the last few seasons.

Manning is my MVP right now, he's undefeated, and I think the Colts have the least talent around him out of the Saints/Colts/Vikings.

I think Favre has it the easiest personally, and Drew Brees has looked mortal lately, and other facets have saved the Saints.

Brees was my MVP over Tomlinson in 2006, and I thought he had a legitimate case last year, where 4 QBs had more votes than he did(LOL, Chad Pennington? rofl)
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A) He reaches 2,000 yards this season (currently at 1,396 yards)
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C) Gets more then 15 TD's rushing (currently at 9)

If he can get these items checked off, I think he has as good a chance as any of the other 3 candidates (Favre, Manning and Brees), the one tough one IMO is the touchdowns. Also, can anyone remember a running back ending a season with more then 6 YPC with more then 200 attempts? The record is 8.48 YPC held by Michael Vick, but he held that in 117 attempts.
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Drew Brees isn't MY Mvp this year. by the traditional(shittay) voting method, he should be though, considering the last few MVPs, but he hasn't been carrying the team like he was the last few seasons.

Manning is my MVP right now, he's undefeated, and I think the Colts have the least talent around him out of the Saints/Colts/Vikings.

I think Favre has it the easiest personally, and Drew Brees has looked mortal lately, and other facets have saved the Saints.

Brees was my MVP over Tomlinson in 2006, and I thought he had a legitimate case last year, where 4 QBs had more votes than he did(LOL, Chad Pennington? rofl)
Haha yeah Pennington was a joke. He was a total game manager. That's not an MVP. Brett Favre is kinda a game manager, but he's a game manager who will go out and win you games, so a) he's straddling that line and b) Chad Pennington wasn't that guy. I'm starting to come around on Favre as MVP tbh. If either 10-0 team goes undefeated, their QB gets it, but if not, I'm giving it to Brett, personally. His efficiency is just off the charts right now.
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Brees was my MVP over Tomlinson in 2006, and I thought he had a legitimate case last year, where 4 QBs had more votes than he did(LOL, Chad Pennington? rofl)
Brees had a great year in 2006 but it's not close compared to what LT did. Plus his team went 14-2 on his back.
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I don't care if the Titans go .500 the rest of the way and CJ doesn't score another TD. If he goes over 2,000 yards, he should be the MVP of the league. There's a reason that has only been done six times before, and that's cause it's damn difficult. Every single year we have QBs doing what Manning, Favre and Brees are doing.
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CJ is currently on pace to have 2,030 yards. If he keeps the pace he has the last few games, he will easily break it.

I agree with MetSox, Peyton almost always carries his team, every year. Brett Favre is playing well but it isn't out of this world. The 2,000 mark has been broken 6 times. That is ridiculous.
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Not sure if this plays a part in the discussion, but Peyton is in range to break Marino's yardage record (5084). He's averaging 310 so far & needs 334 the last 5 games to get it.
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Not sure if this plays a part in the discussion, but Peyton is in range to break Marino's yardage record (5084). He's averaging 310 so far & needs 334 the last 5 games to get it.
That's pretty incredible in itself if he does get it. I have Manning winning it with CJ a close second in the first tier of candidates followed by Favre and Brees in the second tier and VY somewhere after that. Breaking that record and remaining undefeated would be impossible to match.
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