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Old 12-10-2009, 07:31 PM    (permalink
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He has been saying this **** the whole year. Blaiming this, blaiming that. He never says" oh I had a bad game", he blaims others. He is a me player, not a team player. Maybe if your accurate the WR's can make a play for you
Thank you.

To sum it up in his words,

"JaMarcus is where he is because of JaMarcus"

Nothing else needs to be said. Don't give me this BS about your poor supporting cast. Maybe if you learned your damn playbook we could've opened up the playbook 100X more so you wouldn't have to play in what closely resembled to a HS offense. This is the kinda stuff that makes me think he is on his way to Ryan Leaf bust status.
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If his supporting cast is so bad, how is a career back up going into games right now and beating good teams? Truth is JaMarcus is horrible and cares about getting his money than his team, as in Gradkowski is a leader and wants to win.
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Old 12-10-2009, 07:38 PM    (permalink
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If his supporting cast is so bad, how is a career back up going into games right now and beating good teams? Truth is JaMarcus is horrible and cares about getting his money than his team, as in Gradkowski is a leader and wants to win.
JaMarcus is the classic example of a pro athlete not giving a **** when he finally gets paid millions. Forget the work ethic, just look at his weight issues, which he admitted to in training camp.
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He needs to be cut with cap or not,then watch him become good elsewhere.
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He needs to be cut with cap or not,then watch him become good elsewhere.
It will not happen. There are some players out there who will never get what it takes to be successful, and he is one of them. Best he ever becomes is an above average QB based only on his talent, which alone can't get you anywhere in Oakland.
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It will not happen. There are some players out there who will never get what it takes to be successful, and he is one of them. Best he ever becomes is an above average QB based only on his talent, which alone can't get you anywhere in Oakland.
We picked him at the wrong time. We don't have a line to protect him and only 1 reliable receiver.

He can be good,but he has to change his attitude,which may come when he's a cheeseburger from being out of the league.
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He needs to be cut with cap or not,then watch him become good elsewhere.
Having watched him play against the Jets and the Giants, I would be shocked if he became good anywhere else.

From what I've seen, if Jamarcus Russell entered one of those halftime football throwing contests like the one they had during the SEC championship halftime game......... he would lose.
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The whole "well look what's around him" argument is certainly true, but come on, who here thinks Gradkowski is really all that good? So it's ok to blame the surrounding talent on JR failing yet Gradkowski can come in and instantly make that exact same supporting cast beat Pittsburgh and Cincy?


Please.


It's time to stop making excuses, if he doesn't care, or try, or push himself to be a better player he never will be. At this point nobody should be bringing up the WR's, or the line, or Raiders organization as an excuse for him performing poorly. Gradkowski isn't even a starting caliber QB yet somehow took those same pieces to beat playoff caliber teams in the few weeks he's played.
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Old 12-10-2009, 08:56 PM    (permalink
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Just cut him lose and be done with it.

He's only got 3 million left in guarantees, last I checked. If he doesn't want to make less than 9 million next season to ride the bench, then let him earn the vet's minimum on some other team.
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let him earn the vet's minimum on some other team.
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The Lions could use a LT to replace Jeff Backus.
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Ah JaMarcus, how much talent you had and how pitifully you used it through your laziness. I hope you get cut this offseason and wind up taking a 1 year deal or something. Does any reconstructing team take a chance on this guy and hope he can turn it around instead of getting a veteran or a QB via the draft?
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He has been saying this **** the whole year. Blaiming this, blaiming that. He never says" oh I had a bad game", he blaims others. He is a me player, not a team player. Maybe if your accurate the WR's can make a play for you
This guy really amazes me that some team took him from the draft, let alone the number one pick. I hope he has invested his money the right way because he wont be playing in this league much longer.

Are the Raiders officially done with the guy?
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The best deal would be Oakland trading him to someone who needs a future QB. Minnesota and Carolina?
yea but I don't want to give up our 1st rounders for the next 3 years. thats just what hes worth just ask JaMarcus, JaMarcus will tell you how much JaMarcus is worth.
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Why would he? At this point he doesn't have much a future and he knows it. If I were him I would do the same thing. What incentive does he have to accept a pay cut? If the Raiders didn't want to pay him they shouldn't have taken the huge chance by drafting him.
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If I were him I would do the same thing. What incentive does he have to accept a pay cut?

Possibly staying in the league a few extra years?
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Whoever gets him should know they have a project on their hands. He has zero pocket presence, stares down his wide receivers, has zero leadership skills, and can't think fast enough to save his life.
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Whoever gets him should know they have a project on their hands. He has zero pocket presence, stares down his wide receivers, has zero leadership skills, and can't think fast enough to save his life.
I agree he still pretty much a rookie right now, guys like Matt Ryan arnt really learning how to play in the NFL right now, JaMarcus just shows up and does his thing. Puts his stupid beanie on and sits on the sidelines with some skittles in his pocket while he watches what a real QB should do. If I were Cable I just would just look him in the eye and say do you want to be here. If he says no Id say go home since your not helping us in anyway
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You forgot inaccurate too.
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He was the longest holdout in his draft because he wasn't getting enough money, is anyone really surprised that he won't take a pay-cut?
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Why would he? At this point he doesn't have much a future and he knows it. If I were him I would do the same thing. What incentive does he have to accept a pay cut? If the Raiders didn't want to pay him they shouldn't have taken the huge chance by drafting him.
Well, because making somewhat less than 12 million dollars is conceivably more attractive than making 3 million and being out of a job.
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I remember when JaMarcus used to be accurate. Apparently JaMarcus hasn't seen the regression in his own game.

Hell, if his game were exactly where it were last year, he'd be better than he is now and better than Gradkowski.

I've not seen a QB regress that much at a young age in... ever?
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He needs to be cut yesterday.

Trying to read what he said out loud was very hard. Guys a moron.
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Hey, its not his fault that Crazy Al will open up the bank for any player that can throw far and run fast. :-)
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