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Old 12-17-2009, 03:15 PM    (permalink
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The Cardinals won out big time:

Larry Fitzgerald
Karlos Dansby
Darnell Dockett

One draft can turn you from a perennial loser to a Super Bowl contender.
It seems like everyone has their dreamy 04 draft story. It really was one of the best ever.
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It seems like everyone has their dreamy 04 draft story. It really was one of the best ever.
The Giants landed Eli, Chris Snee and Gibril Wilson in that draft. Not too shabby. All were big players in our SB.

Oddly enough, it was our 05 class that really set us up. Everyone said we lost out by trading our picks in 05 away, but that year we landed:

Corey Webster
Justin Tuck
Brandon Jacobs

with only 4 draft picks.

05 hooked you guys up too.

04 and 05 really set up the Giants and Chargers for years to come.
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It seems like everyone has their dreamy 04 draft story. It really was one of the best ever.
The Chiefs took some little known DE Jared Allen in the 4th round of the 2004 draft.

And I said who the hell is Jared Allen?

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I'm not going to lie I thought Gallery would step on the field and day one be one of the best LT's in the game that is one pick you can't blame AL on I mean who new?
I think everyone believed Gallery. I do wonder what went wrong with him though... his own fault, scouting error, coaching mistakes?
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It seems like everyone has their dreamy 04 draft story. It really was one of the best ever.
I know right! Even Dallas has their own dreamy story, it's the one that ended with us passing up Steven Jackson for Julius Jones and following that up with gems like Jacob Rogers, Stephen Peterman, Bruce Thornton, Sean Ryan, & Nathan Jones.


But hey, at least we made out like bandits with Patty Crayton in the 7th, woooo Parcells!!!!!11!!1
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The Giants landed Eli, Chris Snee and Gibril Wilson in that draft. Not too shabby. All were big players in our SB.

Oddly enough, it was our 05 class that really set us up. Everyone said we lost out by trading our picks in 05 away, but that year we landed:

Corey Webster
Justin Tuck
Brandon Jacobs

with only 4 draft picks.

05 hooked you guys up too.

04 and 05 really set up the Giants and Chargers for years to come.

Yah the Charger 04 class has a lot of name recognition, but the 05 draft was the secret assassin...Merriman, Castillo, Vincent Jackson, Darren Sproles
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It seems like everyone has their dreamy 04 draft story. It really was one of the best ever.
Check out our dreamy first three rounds:

Ahmad Carrol.... uber bust... one of the worst players I've ever seen.
Joey Thomas.... uber bust.
Donnel Washington.... uber bust. Never played a game for us.
BJ Sander... a punter... that sucked a lot.....uber bust.
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It seems like everyone has their dreamy 04 draft story. It really was one of the best ever.
Pro Bowlers from the 2004 draft, by round (selection in parenthesis):

Round One:
Eli Manning (1)
Larry Fitzgerald (3)
Philip Rivers (4)
Sean Taylor (5)
Kellen Winslow Jr. (6)
Roy Williams (8)
Ben Roethlisberger (11)
Jonathan Vilma (12)
Tommie Harris (14)
Shawn Andrews (16)
Will Smith (18)
Vince Wilfork (21)
Steven Jackson (24)

Round 2:
Chris Snee (34)
Bob Sanders (44)

Round 3:
Darnell Dockett (64)
Nate Kaeding (65)
Nick Hardwick (66)
Chris Cooley (81)

Round 4:
Nathan Vasher (110)
Jared Allen (126)

Round 5:
Michael Turner (154)

Round 6:
Andy Lee (Punter) (188)

Round 7:
None

Undrafted FAs:
Willie Parker
Jason Peters
Wes Welker

And we selected Reggie ******* Williams. Go figure.
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Pro Bowlers from the 2004 draft, by round (selection in parenthesis):

Round One:
Eli Manning (1)
Larry Fitzgerald (3)
Philip Rivers (4)
Sean Taylor (5)
Kellen Winslow Jr. (6)
Roy Williams (7)
DeAngelo Hall (8)
Ben Roethlisberger (11)
Jonathan Vilma (12)
Tommie Harris (14)
Shawn Andrews (16)
Will Smith (18)
Vince Wilfork (21)
Steven Jackson (24)

Round 2:
Chris Snee (34)
Bob Sanders (44)

Round 3:
Darnell Dockett (64)
Nate Kaeding (65)
Nick Hardwick (66)
Chris Cooley (81)

Round 4:
Nathan Vasher (110)
Jared Allen (126)

Round 5:
Michael Turner (154)

Round 6:
Andy Lee (Punter) (188)

Round 7:
None

Undrafted FAs:
Willie Parker
Jason Peters
Wes Welker
Matt McBriar

And we selected Reggie ******* Williams. Go figure.
DeAngelo Hall and Matt McBriar want a word with you.
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McBriar's a punter, that hardly counts.
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Denver only got DJ Williams out of that draft, really. He's pretty good, but not as good as was predicted. Tatum Bell was good for a little while, too. Could get you good yards per carry as long as he didn't get too many carries.

2006 draft was where Denver destroyed, though.

Cutler
Scheffler
Marshall
Dumervil
Even Domenik Hixon, who was a bust here, is doing good things in the league in NY.

If Cutler hadn't had that falling out last year, that would have been 4 crucial pieces of our franchise for the next several years. Cutler himself turned into 2 first rounders and Kyle Orton who might still turn out to be a QB capable of taking us somewhere. Even if you leave him out though, that's a solid ass draft.
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The Chiefs don't have one player left on their roster from the 2004 draft as much as I love and respect Dick Vermil his drafting was the worst.

That is a huge reason why the Chiefs are in the mess they are now they had great starters under DV but no depth when all those older guys left they had no one to replace them with.
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Benjamin Watson, Marquise Hill (RIP), Guss Scott, Dexter Reid, Cedric Cobbs, P.K. Sam and Christian Morton.

How lame.
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Chris Perry - gone.
Keiwan Ratliff - gone.
Caleb Miller - gone.
Landon Johnson - gone.
Matthias Askew - gone.
Stacey Andrews - gone.
Maurice Mann - gone.
Greg Brooks - gone.
Casey Bramlet - gone.

9 picks and none of them are with us 5 years later. That's the definition of a dreamy draft story.

2004 was Marvin's worst draft (and despite people ripping the Bengals for their drafting, I think we actually do a pretty good job usually).
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Check out our dreamy first three rounds:

Ahmad Carrol.... uber bust... one of the worst players I've ever seen.
Joey Thomas.... uber bust.
Donnel Washington.... uber bust. Never played a game for us.
BJ Sander... a punter... that sucked a lot.....uber bust.
But our 2005 draft was sick!

Aaron Rodgers
Nick Collins

That's all you need to know. Seriously, don't look at the rest of it.
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