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02-06-2008, 01:13 PM
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Pete Carroll: The greatest recruiter in the history of CFB
Years Past:
Joe McKnight. Dwayne Jarrett. Brian Cushing. Taylor Mays. Keith Rivers. Jeff Byers. Kyle Moore. Mike Williams. John David Booty. Vidal Hazelton. Patrick Turner.
This Year:
TJ Bryant. Nick Perry. Daniel Campbell. and possibly Jerrell Harris.
In terms of locking up local talent and pulling studs from out of state, there has been no one better. Bar none.
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02-06-2008, 01:14 PM
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i don't think he's the best recruiter simply because USC sells itself.
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02-06-2008, 01:22 PM
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yea he is a good recruiter and USC does pretty much sell it self...I'd be willing to put Zooker up there in the argument though...I mean, do you think Pete Carroll could pull in a top 20 recruiting class after going like 3 wins in 2 years, in a place not as desireable as florida, california, etc.?
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02-06-2008, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by VoteLynnSwan
i don't think he's the best recruiter simply because USC sells itself.
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It wasn't in the years before Carrol got there.
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02-06-2008, 01:23 PM
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Might have to subtract one..lol
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02-06-2008, 01:25 PM
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Please. USC did not "sell itself" to OOS recruits in the 90s.
Part of the reason 'SC has been so competitive recently is because they recruit nationally, not locally.
Pete is a master salesman. There is no one more charming to recruit's families, no one whose personality is more attractive to recruits. And he does it all with class and ethics.
They did a poll of Senior Bowl participants in January. Pete Carroll was voted as the coach that players most wanted to play for other than their own (the 8 USC Seniors couldn't vote for Carroll).
What's great about Pete is that he's still learning and getting better. Joe McKnight and TJ Bryant just go to show you that if your prized recruit from in-state is quiet, you better be afraid that he's a silent commit to USC.
Pete Carroll & USC: Stealing a recruit in a city near you!
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02-06-2008, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Giantsfan1080
It wasn't in the years before Carrol got there.
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Pete Carroll is a great coach and a great recruiter... I'm not trying to take anything away from him, but at this point, all he has to do is say USC wants you kid.
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02-06-2008, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by VoteLynnSwan
Pete Carroll is a great coach and a great recruiter... I'm not trying to take anything away from him, but at this point, all he has to do is say USC wants you kid.
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very true, kids are wanting to go to USC as of recently before Carroll even steps foot in the door, its THE place to go right now...
Although some things hurt USC, like too much depth certain positions, they cant lock down huge prospects every year at each position, for instance darrell scott would of looked at usc first but guys who want to play right off the bat dont opt to go the USC route
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02-06-2008, 01:40 PM
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Yeah if Pete Carroll can go somewhere else and do the same he is the greatest. If he goes to like PA and pulls in a top class with Temple then that would be amazing.
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02-06-2008, 02:12 PM
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Might have to subtract one..lol
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People are actually believing this?
And yes, Pete is a BAMF....just wait till next year, he'll bring in the best SC class ever and will once agian with the recruiting title.
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02-06-2008, 02:27 PM
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People are actually believing this?
And yes, Pete is a BAMF....just wait till next year, he'll bring in the best SC class ever and will once agian with the recruiting title.
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No but it's funny as hell when you think about it.
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02-06-2008, 02:55 PM
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Nick Saban says "Hello, I just won the recruiting title working for a team that's gone 6-6 for two straight years".
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02-06-2008, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by stillaraiderfan
People are actually believing this?
And yes, Pete is a BAMF....just wait till next year, he'll bring in the best SC class ever and will once agian with the recruiting title.
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cierre woods matt barkley and the list goes on...
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02-15-2008, 08:29 AM
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Nick Saban says "Hello, I just won the recruiting title working for a team that's gone 6-6 for two straight years".
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Hi Nick. Let me know when you do something with those recruits. SC sucked before Carroll got there, now look at them.
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02-15-2008, 11:19 AM
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the thread isn't about coaching, it's about recruiting...
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02-18-2008, 06:34 PM
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Urban Meyer nearly had 3 #1/#2 recruiting classes in a row.
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02-18-2008, 06:39 PM
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Carroll's '09 class is already looking like the #1..
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02-18-2008, 06:40 PM
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dont forget since USC is a private school there academic standards for athletes is incredibly low, i believe
what zook is doin at Ilin is great recruiting, but over the years the styles have changed.
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02-20-2008, 11:26 AM
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dont forget since USC is a private school there academic standards for athletes is incredibly low, i believe
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They actually have pretty high standards for athletes. However, that doesn't mean that the high schools kids are coming from don't let them have a pass on grades.
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02-20-2008, 12:18 PM
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Urban Meyer nearly had 3 #1/#2 recruiting classes in a row.
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yeah i would put meyer up there, though I question his recruiting tactics...
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02-20-2008, 12:51 PM
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Urban Meyer nearly had 3 #1/#2 recruiting classes in a row.
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So. Carroll went #3/#1/#1/#1/#2 on Rivals from 2003 to 2007.
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02-20-2008, 07:10 PM
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yeah i would put meyer up there, though I question his recruiting tactics...
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And you think Peety is squeaky clean?
Face it, teams who pull in the best recruiting classes have some shady business going on with at least one recruit.
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02-20-2008, 07:14 PM
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Pete is a master salesman. There is no one more charming to recruit's families, no one whose personality is more attractive to recruits. And he does it all with class and ethics.
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Families love Nick Saban, as do recruits. But Saban is definitely a 'charmer' for the familes. I would say he (Saban) is the best recruiter out there, considering right now how hot USC is it really is not tought to get people to go there.
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02-20-2008, 07:32 PM
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Nick Saban says "Hello, I just won the recruiting title working for a team that's gone 6-6 for two straight years".
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While Saban definitely pulled in a great class this year, it was the quantity rather than quality that put Alabama atop the rankings. If Carroll, Tressel, Meyer, Weis or Stoops had room for 32 names, I'm sure they could have pulled that many in. And really, the question of who ended up with the best class won't be determined for a few years.
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02-20-2008, 07:38 PM
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Families love Nick Saban, as do recruits. But Saban is definitely a 'charmer' for the familes. I would say he (Saban) is the best recruiter out there, considering right now how hot USC is it really is not tought to get people to go there.
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So really, you're saying that Carroll's current rep should be penalized due to his past successes.
I'm not picking sides here, because I don't really think there's a solid basis for comparison. If Saban were coaching UCLA or Carroll were coaching Auburn, it would be much easier.
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