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Old 01-03-2010, 03:59 PM    (permalink
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IF he runs a 4.3 at the Combine, Cooper will be wearing the Silver and Black in Oakland
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I think after the Sugar Bowl his stock is on the rise, on his 80 yard bomb that guy was flying down the field, he totally dusted both the corner & safety that were chasing him. I'm not sure about sub 4.4 but low 4.4 seems pretty accurate to me. Late 2nd round anyone?
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I wouldn't be surprised if he somehow got picked in the 1st.
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Will probably go around were former Florida receiver Louis Murphy went.
We have space for another Gator if we decide to not keep JLH around. You know Al's gonna fall for his speedzzz! Let's make it happen!!!
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I wouldn't be surprised if he somehow got picked in the 1st.
He doesnt look like a polished route runner just yet so even with his blazing speed i doubt he gets near the 1st round. Matt Jones did it but teams might look at that result as a negative.
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He doesnt look like a polished route runner just yet so even with his blazing speed i doubt he gets near the 1st round. Matt Jones did it but teams might look at that result as a negative.
I think Matt Jones is even more freaky then Cooper, Jones was 6'6 and 242lbs when he ran that 4.37, which has never been done before or since for that matter. There are a few, not many, at Cooper's 6'3ish height that have run sub 4.4, so the OMG factor, even if he breaks 4.4, won't be there like it was for Jones. BTW its a disgrace that Jones is not in the league anymore.
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I think Matt Jones is even more freaky then Cooper, Jones was 6'6 and 242lbs when he ran that 4.37, which has never been done before or since for that matter. There are a few, not many, at Cooper's 6'3ish height that have run sub 4.4, so the OMG factor, even if he breaks 4.4, won't be there like it was for Jones. BTW its a disgrace that Jones is not in the league anymore.
how is it a disgrace? He forced himself out of the league with his coke issues. And who is it a disgrace?
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how is it a disgrace? He forced himself out of the league with his coke issues. And who is it a disgrace?
Good to know there are zero players in the league that have never done drugs. Nice to see they've cleaned that up.
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I really, really, really like Riley Cooper. The speed is legit. His hands and route running aren't always all there, but they aren't bad either. We'll see. Florida wide receivers are traditionally fools gold, but Harvin and Murphy have looked damn good so far. No reason to think Cooper can't have similar success.
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how is it a disgrace? He forced himself out of the league with his coke issues. And who is it a disgrace?
Its a disgrace to the racist followers of white football players
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Dallas newspaper suggested he would be a 4th or 5th round pick.
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Good to know there are zero players in the league that have never done drugs. Nice to see they've cleaned that up.
I never said their aren't players who have drug problems. The NFL does try and help these player, by keeping them in the substance abuse program. But if the slip up they are obviously gonna be on their way out.
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i dont see him in the nfl, primarily cause he's white...... what?
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I never said their aren't players who have drug problems. The NFL does try and help these player, by keeping them in the substance abuse program. But if the slip up they are obviously gonna be on their way out.
Agree. Jones may be his own worst enemy. His latest screwup was actually beer related. My guess is he'll get a chance next year but needs to show he's serious about the NFL. After the Eagles gave Michael Vick a second chance i figure it applies to just about everyone else.

As for where Cooper will go in the draft, seeing where Darius Heyward Bey was chosen based pretty much soley on size and speed, i can see Cooper's stock soaring for the same reason. Coopers numbers at Florida this year were clearly better than DHB's last year Maryland.
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No. Most likely he will be gone by the late 2nd.
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how is it a disgrace? He forced himself out of the league with his coke issues. And who is it a disgrace?
I think the guy made one mistake, Vick got another chance, Adam Jones got another chance, why not Matt Jones?
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Its a disgrace to the racist followers of white football players
What the hell is that comment about????????????? I didn't say ANYTHING about Jones being white! If you like a player that happens to be white your a racist???????? I guess you woke up on the wrong side of the bed, so I will let that go, besides your a mod and i just signed up, so whatever.
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I think the guy made one mistake, Vick got another chance, Adam Jones got another chance, why not Matt Jones?
Matt Jones got caught with coke more than once.


Regarding Cooper, I think he could be a solid slot reciever who could develop into a solid number 2. The Florida track record of recievers is not good, but it seems like Harvin and Murphy are breaking that.
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Matt Jones got caught with coke more than once.


Regarding Cooper, I think he could be a solid slot reciever who could develop into a solid number 2. The Florida track record of recievers is not good, but it seems like Harvin and Murphy are breaking that.
You don't put height, long speed, and unrefined route running in the slot.
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Regarding Cooper, I think he could be a solid slot reciever who could develop into a solid number 2. The Florida track record of recievers is not good, but it seems like Harvin and Murphy are breaking that.
How does a 6'3 215lbs burner best "project" to the slot, and not on the outside where he can use his speed?
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He's not what is viewed as a prototypical slot receiver today. Not in the Welker/Bess mold at all. He reminds me a bit of Miles Austin from a height/speed perspective(although I don't think he'll run 4.29 haha). If all goes right with him and he develops well, I could see him being a similar player.
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I think the guy made one mistake, Vick got another chance, Adam Jones got another chance, why not Matt Jones?
Mike Vick was a pro Bowler, PacMan was very promising, Matt Jones was a bust.
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how is it a disgrace? He forced himself out of the league with his coke issues. And who is it a disgrace?
I would say to himself. He has all the talent in the world and all the second chances needed. Yet, he pissed it away...
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He's not what is viewed as a prototypical slot receiver today. Not in the Welker/Bess mold at all. He reminds me a bit of Miles Austin from a height/speed perspective(although I don't think he'll run 4.29 haha). If all goes right with him and he develops well, I could see him being a similar player.
He ran a 4.47 at the combine...I'll never understand why people would take Pro Day times over combine times...
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Mike Vick was a pro Bowler, PacMan was very promising, Matt Jones was a bust.
Ummm no,

#1 Vick sucked, currently sucks, always will suck. He was nothing more then an ESPN media hype job.

#2. Adam Jones had one decent year, just like Matt Jones, then went on to commit one violent crime after another, and the only reason he is out of the league right now is because he ummmm SUCKS.

#3 Matt Jones had a great year, was really coming on, the light went on, and then, he made a DUMB mistake, and now is blacklisted. I just find it hard to believe that the NFL's fastest man IN THE HISTORY OF THE LEAGUE (this is not my opinion, its a fact based on his 4.37 combine time in the 40 yard dash)over 240lbs is not wanted on any NFL team unless that directive is sent from the top.
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