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Old 03-12-2007, 09:35 PM    (permalink
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He wanted one last year also, but JA didnt like any of the offers we were getting. So Jones didnt go anywhere and played a pretty good year.
Alrighty. Thanks for the clarification.
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how is going to hurt him not to play? I guarantee even if he sat out an entire year he would still make bank the next off season or if the bears chose to franchise him again its another 7 mill to sit on his can

and at this point any team that offers to trade for him is gonna want to know if he will play so thus giving him the option to choose where he goes
Umm...you realize that you don't get paid if you sit out right? He won't make anything. And the Bears could franchise him for another year and he'd still make nothing.
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I say somewhere in the 20-30 range straight up is good value for Briggs. John Abraham got a first round pick last year, and he was basically in the same situation.
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I say somewhere in the 20-30 range straight up is good value for Briggs. John Abraham got a first round pick last year, and he was basically in the same situation.
Agree, like 22nd :)
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I know it may/will not happen..But Briggs would look damn sexy in a cowboys uniform!!!!!

I would be more then willing to give up a first(22nd) pick!
Would he fit in the Boys' Defense?
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Would he fit in the Boys' Defense?
ILB, He's (Briggs) about 10 times better then james
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Apparently Asante Samuel is holding out also.
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Briggs is an idiot as well as greedy. He needs to get his butt on the field and play. He acts like $7+million is chump change. I hope the Bears franchise him again and again so that he can never play another down in the NFL again. I know it would never happen, but theoretically it can and it would be very funny.
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JA will not trade him unless someone is coughing up a 1st rounder. PEROID.

JA wasn't born yesterday.. A lot of people around the league thought Briggs should have gotten some DPOY consideration. This is an elite player, not just a good player.

37 + Briggs for #12 is fair on both ends IMO.

Briggs or Willis? Assuming Buffalo wants a LB in the first.. This is a pretty weak LB class IMO.. It's a no brainer to me.

Briggs is proven and still very young. The Buffalo connection is there. Last year on draft day the two teams made a trade together.

In the end I don't think Briggs is moved, and there's absolutely no way he walks away from $7.2M.

John Abraham who had serious durability concerns picked up a 1st rounder last year. You guys who are offering Mid/Late 2nd round picks are absolutely out of your mind.

When did that John Abraham trade go down last year? Was it around this time of last year?
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You can't say that the Bears hold all of the leverage in this. You have to look at it from both sides. The Bears see it as Briggs can play and get his money or he can sit and not collect a dime. Briggs sees it as the Bears can trade him and receive compensation for him or they can let him sit at home and get nothing for him. I don't see how letting Briggs sit at home and not play for the Bears helps the organization. It's not like the Bears are in a win-win situation like a lot of you are suggesting. Guess what, if Briggs doesn't play than neither side wins.
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If I'm Marv Levy(i'm a Bills fan), I dont care what is on the board at 12. I would make that deal in a heartbeat trading # 12 for 31 and Lance Briggs. Briggs is the best player you can get in the draft. Maybe eventually someone down the road would be a better player for Briggs but the Bills desperately need an attacking LBer that can make plays in the opponents backfield.

I dont care if Calvin Johnson is sitting on the board at 12 i'm more then willing to STAY in the 1st round and pick up and all pro LBer in the process. Bring on pick 31 if Briggs is coming Buffalo's way.

Then the Bills could take a CB in the first round such as Revis, Houston or others and work from there. I would be a happy Bills fan if that happened.
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but the bears can still franchise briggs next year and the year after (if i understand right). they could, essentially, tag him until he's no longer able to play football, meaning that if they don't need the tag and don't feel like whatever compensation they can get will help, they can let briggs rot on his couch.
briggs can retire this year and come back next year cant he..? if they did that they would be the most classless pieces of garbage on the planet .
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but the bears can still franchise briggs next year and the year after (if i understand right). they could, essentially, tag him until he's no longer able to play football, meaning that if they don't need the tag and don't feel like whatever compensation they can get will help, they can let briggs rot on his couch.
Yes, they can in fact do that. I still don't understand how that helps the team though.
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He could also do what Branch threatened to do, play just enough games to be eligible for FA again, making them pay for him and not total production
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How about the number 31 and briggs for the no.14?
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no more and no less than briggs himself would be.
yea how is that? because chicago is nickel and diming briggs?
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*shrug* if they don't feel that whatever is offered in trade seriously helps the team, they might be willing to sit on briggs. moreso because it's unlikely he'd spend the next seven years sitting at home. eventually he'd report to get paid. i don't think it's necessarily logical, but were i an owner, and i didn't think that i was getting anything of proper value in trade offers, i would have no problem sitting on a holdout player until he was no longer able to play.
The Bears would be fairly stupid to do that, he could wait a year, then sign the franchise deal. Then they are paying a ridiculous ammount for a LB whos been out for a year.
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but the bears can still franchise briggs next year and the year after (if i understand right). they could, essentially, tag him until he's no longer able to play football, meaning that if they don't need the tag and don't feel like whatever compensation they can get will help, they can let briggs rot on his couch.
And continue to waste significant portions of their salary cap (which would increase each year) for spite?
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how in the HELL are you going to call 7 million for one year "nickel and diming"? do you have any vague concept of what that places him at in terms of LB salaries around the league?
did he get a huge signing bonus?
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he's getting 7 million guaranteed for a single year of play. if he forces them to continue franchising him, he'll get MORE than he would with some backloaded contract. again, how is this difficult to understand? are you just being obnoxious because you want him on the giants and he just has to be traded because he said so and no other alternative is acceptable? or are you at least trying to think about this logically?
THATS HALF what he would receive in guaranteed money in a long term deal what dont you understand?
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they could also trade him at that point. if the value sucks, the value sucks. i don't see any reason why they have to trade him rightthisinstant just because they can get a 7th round pick and a roll of quarters for him (metaphorically speaking, of course).
Once he signs, can't he not be traded, I kind of remember someone saying that when Abraham was tagged last year? The salary cap ramifications would probably be big aswell.
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The reason he is doing this is simple, the possibility of injury. If he gets injured and misses a good amount of time this year, then no way will he get as much $$$ as he would have this year. Its basically as simple as that. HE wants to force a trade get a long term deal done this year after being a Pro-Bowler and appearing in the Super Bowl.
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