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Old 01-22-2010, 05:14 PM    (permalink
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Adjust your mocks accordingly. He seems to be saying the strength of the defense is the LB corps (especially with Lofa coming back). My guess is Lawrence Jackson would fit nicely at DE and they would probably use Aaron Curry as a rush linebacker. Wonder if Darryl Tapp could man the other OLB spot?
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Aaron Curry at 3-4 OLB? I don't remember him being a highly touted pass-rusher, although I remember him doing everything well. I'd figure Leroy Hill would be a better rush-backer.

Haven't kept up on Tapp, but I'd think he could.


What does this mean for the Seahawks Draft needs?
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Aaron Curry at 3-4 OLB? I don't remember him being a highly touted pass-rusher, although I remember him doing everything well. I'd figure Leroy Hill would be a better rush-backer.

Haven't kept up on Tapp, but I'd think he could.


What does this mean for the Seahawks Draft needs?
Curry showed some good pressure on the QB this year, unfortunately not a lot else.

Not sure if they can afford to address the D with their 2 number ones, there seem to be more pressing needs like OT/S/RB. If a Jerry Hughes or an Everson Griffin are there at #38 they probably would be interested.
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I think their LB's could do it but I'm not sure about their DL that said I would lieing if I said I new alot about Seattle.
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I think their LB's could do it but I'm not sure about their DL that said I would lieing if I said I new alot about Seattle.
DL is fine, especially at 3-4 DE. Cory Redding, Patrick Kerney, and Lawrence Jackson can all play 5-tech. Red Bryant at NT could do the trick too.

Is that an elite group though? :/
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I could see the Hawks taking Cody in the 2nd with this.
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DL is fine, especially at 3-4 DE. Cory Redding, Patrick Kerney, and Lawrence Jackson can all play 5-tech. Red Bryant at NT could do the trick too.

Is that an elite group though? :/
I would think Colin Cole would be the nose tackle. I could see Redding at end but not Kerney or Jackson. Although, Kerney's probably out the door anyway because of his age.
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I would think Colin Cole would be the nose tackle. I could see Redding at end but not Kerney or Jackson. Although, Kerney's probably out the door anyway because of his age.
I think your right about Cole, Mebane can play there too. I happen to like Lawrence Jackson at the 3-4 DE and i know Pete likes him. To me the LBs are the key to a successful 3-4 and they should be good there. The D was terrible this year so it shouldnt take much to improve.

As to the question of Mt Cody in the 2nd i still think they have too many other needs.
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I would think Colin Cole would be the nose tackle. I could see Redding at end but not Kerney or Jackson. Although, Kerney's probably out the door anyway because of his age.
Either that or he's a 3rd down pass rush specialist. I don't see Kerney at 5-Tech at his age. He's a true 4-3 DE and he always has been.

On another note, everybody wants to play a 3-4, why not a multiple 46 defense. Show 'em a bunch of looks, a lot of pre-snap movement, rush at least 5 with a lot of Fire Zone blitzes. I admit that zone blitzing is a Lebeau thing, not a Ryan thing, but it's probably necessary to making the 46 work in today's NFL.

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Either that or he's a 3rd down pass rush specialist. I don't see Kerney at 5-Tech at his age. He's a true 4-3 DE and he always has been.

On another note, everybody wants to play a 3-4, why not a multiple 46 defense. Show 'em a bunch of looks, a lot of pre-snap movement, rush at least 5 with a lot of Fire Zone blitzes. I admit that zone blitzing is a Lebeau thing, not a Ryan thing, but it's probably necessary to making the 46 work in today's NFL.
If you're talking a Buddy Ryan 46 defense then i would think you need better D-lineman. I'm all for more pressure from all directions. Pete's specialty is defense so it should be interesting.
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I didn't get the impression that he was saying we were going to be switching to the 3-4, and neither did Eric from TNT.
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I didn't get the impression that he was saying we were going to be switching to the 3-4, and neither did Eric from TNT.
He said as much on KOMO sports the other night. Said he thought the LBs were the strength of the D and wanted to get more of them on the field. Cant be any worse than what they have now.
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The strength of our D is the linebackers.....in the 4-3. I'm not sure they'll look as good in the 3-4 and our d-line will look even worse. Also, if we were moving to the 3-4 why would we have kept Bradley, who has no experience with the 3-4?
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I really hope they don't move to a 3-4. The best player on the defense is Mebane and he's so much better at UT than NT. I don't want to see him moved to 5-tech or NT in a 3-4 at all.

Plus they don't really have any pass rushers.
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The strength of our D is the linebackers.....in the 4-3. I'm not sure they'll look as good in the 3-4 and our d-line will look even worse. Also, if we were moving to the 3-4 why would we have kept Bradley, who has no experience with the 3-4?
Pete's response had to do with maximising Aaron Curry and he seemed to think that was the way to go, as a pass rusher i assume. Personally i dont care as long as they get er done.
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Pete's response had to do with maximising Aaron Curry and he seemed to think that was the way to go, as a pass rusher i assume. Personally i dont care as long as they get er done.
Well the elephant guy does a lot of rushing the passer in the 4-3 under and I'm assuming that he's going to want Curry to be that guy.
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Maybe a multiple 4-3 using 3-4 sets like Monte Kiffin did in Tampa during his last year there.
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I think the best comparison would be Arizona. Although they are called a 3-4, you'll see them in just as many 4-3 situations with their linebackers & safeties moving all over the field before the snap. It's an organized chaos for the defense that throws off the blocking assignments. This could create gaps for the linebackers to blow up, thus increasing their effectiveness.

Also, I do expect to see some 3-4 this season. I don't expect it is going to be the primary defense because Leroy Hill is not a 3-4 OLB, and if they do convert I expect to see him traded and a 3-4 OLB drafted early on. Also, Mebane is not a NT and it would be completely counterproductive to put him there in a 3-4. It completely neutralizes his abilities. He's not a guy you stick in the middle and expect to stop the run, he's attacks the line and applies interior pressure. He's a 3-4 DE if they do switch. Tapp & Kerney aren't 3-4 DE or OLB, so switching over completely neutralizes your two of your better pass rushers (Tapp & Curry are the best on the team).

That alone is why I expect it to only be a situational package used to create confusion.

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Have Tapp and Curry as the OLB. Possibly Kerney at OLB too but I'm not sure they have the D-Line depth. If Kerney is to play DE, it will be him and Redding as the DE and probably Mebane at NT. Mebane isn't that big but he is very stout at the point of attack and I think he could do a good job as a Nose. Or they could put Red at NT, Mebane to DE and Kerney to OLB. It should be interesting watch. I wonder how it will effect the direction they go in the draft. Not necessarily round 1 but everything after it.
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What's the consensus here? I have the Seahawks in the 7 round mock draft going on right now. Should I draft assuming the switch or stick with 4-3 fits?
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I would say stick with the 4-3. Pete ran the 4-3 under at USC, he kept Bradley who runs a 4-3, and there has been no more mentions of scheme changes anywhere from Seahawks land.
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What's the consensus here? I have the Seahawks in the 7 round mock draft going on right now. Should I draft assuming the switch or stick with 4-3 fits?
Seeing as their 1st three picks (6,14 and 38) should probably be OT/S/RB i dont think it matters what defense they're running as far as your mock goes.
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Seeing as their 1st three picks (6,14 and 38) should probably be OT/S/RB i dont think it matters what defense they're running as far as your mock goes.
Went with Clausen with the first one.
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Went with Clausen with the first one.
I'm going to keep my Jake Locker to Seattle in 2011 campaign going till the polls close.
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I'm going to keep my Jake Locker to Seattle in 2011 campaign going till the polls close.
Very well. I promise I won't dissapoint you guys haha.
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