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Who Is most Underrated QB In NFL?
The most underrated QB in the NFL might be Ben Roethlisberger's , he has done so much for his team winning two super bowls and putting up big numbers but when people mention QB'S they don't mention him with the elites and I just don't get that?
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02-17-2010, 02:28 PM
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The most underrated QB in the NFL might be Ben Roethlisberger's , he has done so much for his team winning two super bowls and putting up big numbers but when people mention QB'S they don't mention him with the elites and I just don't get that?
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Big Ben is somewhat underrated no matter what he does I don't think he will ever shake the game manager title that he had early in career, the guy simply wins games..its not allways pretty
As far as underated I'll go with Matt Schaub and Aaron Rodgers, but its hard to go with Rodgers beacause everone is hyping him after his play this year.
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Eli Manning
He has his bad games, but when he's on...well, see the playoffs from a couple of years ago. He's viewed as Peyton's spoiled little brother who has an aloof look to him. He's a pretty good starting QB who can be very good at times and never misses games.
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02-17-2010, 02:42 PM
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Matt Schaub right now. He had a pretty damn good season this year, yet he really doesn't get talked about too much. He does have Andre Johnson and Owen Daniels to throw to. Still a good QB though.
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Good call on Schaub.
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I like the Schaub pick here. Strongly disagree on Roethlisberger though. For a long time he was considered a top 3 guy by alot of people. I think its hard to look passed Donovan McNabb as well
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Chad Henne. I don't know how you can ask for much more from a 1st year starter than what he served up this last year, with weapons that left a lot to be desired. Looking forward to watching his development.
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Chad Henne. I don't know how you can ask for much more from a 1st year starter than what he served up this last year, with weapons that left a lot to be desired. Looking forward to watching his development.
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Hennes a good call as well. I think he needs to work on his touch passes in the offseason. It seemed every pass was a fastball but for a relatively new QB he done very well with as you mentioned lacklustre talent around
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Matt Schaub right now. He had a pretty damn good season this year, yet he really doesn't get talked about too much. He does have Andre Johnson and Owen Daniels to throw to. Still a good QB though.
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Daniels went on IR early this year and he didn't really miss a beat.
For underated I think the media/general public underate Rivers. He has been playing like an elite QB the last few years and doesn't get much pub, he even got snubbed for the pro bowl last year despite leading the league in YPA, TDs and passer rating.
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02-17-2010, 03:22 PM
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My point is Big Ben does not get much praise comparing to already winning two super bowls. The last time I checked Manning won one and he gets all hyped up, also the last time I checked Henne and Schaub has not even made the playoffs and Rivers chokes in the playoffs by not winning the big game.
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I don't think its that Rivers is underrated but hated by fans.
He is either the 3rd or 4th best QB in the NFL in my book.
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It has to be Schaub because most casual NFL fans probably don't realize he actually played the whole season this year...and that his numbers were stupid good.
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My point is Big Ben does not get much praise comparing to already winning two super bowls. The last time I checked Manning won one and he gets all hyped up, also the last time I checked Henne and Schaub has not even made the playoffs and Rivers chokes in the playoffs by not winning the big game.
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Your mom chokes in the playoffs, Rivers has only been a starter for 4 years.
For the record I didn't neg rep you, everyone is entitled to their horrible opinions.
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Ben Roethlisberger isn't good.
He's just clutch.
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I think Ben gets more credit than he deserves, frankly. He takes all the credit for "winning 2 superbowls" and no credit for taking a truckload of sacks and causing his online to be discussed as one of the worst in the league.
Schaub is the best answer, I think. The guy puts up elite numbers but nobody really talks about him except to mention him as the guy throwing to Andre.
Rivers gets mentioned as a top talent, it's just that he's a dick and nobody likes him outside of SD.
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02-17-2010, 03:41 PM
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CC SD your team chokes in the playoffs including your mom and your family stop the name-calling!
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CC SD your team chokes in the playoffs including your mom and your family stop the name-calling!
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You are cool.
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I think Ben gets more credit than he deserves, frankly. He takes all the credit for "winning 2 superbowls" and no credit for taking a truckload of sacks and causing his online to be discussed as one of the worst in the league.
Schaub is the best answer, I think. The guy puts up elite numbers but nobody really talks about him except to mention him as the guy throwing to Andre.
Rivers gets mentioned as a top talent, it's just that he's a dick and nobody likes him outside of SD.
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Eh...all I have to say is "ends, not means." Can you really argue against the effectiveness of his style? Sure, it ends up in high sack numbers, but ultimately him running around like a chicken with his head cut off leads to more good plays than bad. How many plays did we see him extend with his feet in the Superbowl (especially on that final drive) that Manning would have curled up into a ball and eaten the sack on?
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CC SD your team chokes in the playoffs including your mom and your family stop the name-calling!
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Dissing the team is okay by me, I diss it all the time. Back it up if you're going to knock Rivers though.
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CC SD your team chokes in the playoffs including your mom and your family stop the name-calling!
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Imagine if the Raiders had a playoff game for this guy to choke in?
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02-17-2010, 03:49 PM
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At least the Raiders have won three super bowls and by the way Jamarcus is young and Rivers has been in the league for a while okay
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Dissing the team is okay by me, I diss it all the time. Back it up if you're going to knock Rivers though.
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You're more concerned about him dissing Rivers than your mom :) a true fan.
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02-17-2010, 03:51 PM
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Rivers has never won a super bowl and the last few years when everybody chose the Chargers to win it all. Who threw those interceptions in the playoff game against the Jets, who talks a lot without backing it up that is Rivers and the Chargers!
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At least the Raiders have won three super bowls and by the way Jamarcus is young and Rivers has been in the league for a while okay
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There needs to be a rule that if you weren't alive to see your team's Superbowl, you cannot use it as smack talk to another fan.
Seriously dude. The last Raider Superbowl win was in 1980 - thirty years ago. The only two competent head coaches you've had since then (Shannahan and Gruden), you managed to piss off and/or trade for draft picks and cash. Your first round picks scream bust louder than Scarlett Johanssen. And the sad part is that there is no future in sight until your thief owner finally ******* dies.
Seriously, Raider fans shouldn't be allowed to criticize anything except their own team.
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