MLB Discussion Thread - Page 1044

Brodeur · 07-02-2012, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by fenikz

and Hill is 40 points higher than both

AUSTIN JACKSON WAS ROBBED TOO, OKAY. Bastard.

Borat · 07-02-2012, 01:36 AM

Brandon Crawford (SS) and Brandon Belt (1B) both finished second in fan voting. Neither player made the ASG. Huuuuuuuge snubs. Come on. These are travesties. Boycott the ASG.

yodapoop · 07-02-2012, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bengals78

Cards fan complaining about another team's complaining....
yeah makes sense.

Get to the World Series and u and ur manager are allowed to snub all the Cardinals they want. Oh wait, Dusty ******* Baker is managing u guys. So until then, kiss our rings....

Tho Cueto did get snubbed, but KISS OUR RINGS!

yodapoop · 07-02-2012, 02:34 AM

BTW, a very fair reason why Cueto is not in......

"The non-selection of Cueto, he said, was because the righthander, who is 9-4 with a 2.26 earned run average, is slated to pitch next Sunday for the Reds and would be unavailable to pitch in an All-Star Game two days later. La Russa said he also removed Milwaukee's Zack Greinke (9-2) from consideration because he had been told Greinke would be pitching next Sunday."

Read more: http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseb...#ixzz1zRrWlQEx

holt_bruce81 · 07-02-2012, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bengals78

I guess I shouldnt be shocked at a team with Carpenter on it with a complaining fan base

lol I love it. Carpenter has such a bad reputation it's hilarious. I really don't know where it came from. And if you even bring up that Brendan Ryan incident you're an idiot. Because that happens all the time in baseball, Carpenter didn't know cameras would catch that.

Carpenter is a beast.

Bengals78 · 07-02-2012, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by holt_bruce81

lol I love it. Carpenter has such a bad reputation it's hilarious. I really don't know where it came from. And if you even bring up that Brendan Ryan incident you're an idiot. Because that happens all the time in baseball, Carpenter didn't know cameras would catch that.

Carpenter is a beast.

He has whined the last 3-4 times he pitched vs Cincinnati.

Giantsfan1080 · 07-02-2012, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Victory X

Why do you hate the Braves?

Also, to the people bitching about Panda starting over Wright, it's payback for Panda not getting in over Wright in 09

http://imgur.com/zk7pg

Besides the HR's that year is was still pretty close. Throw in the fact Wright had a much better track record at that point then it makes more sense. This year is just BS where the stats aren't even close since Panda was out for a month. Wright's been the 2nd best player in baseball.

I also usually think they do a prety good job with the MLB All Stars. Fans and the managers picking the team. This year is a mess. They need to add some more spots to the roster.

Giantsfan1080 · 07-02-2012, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by yodapoop

BTW, a very fair reason why Cueto is not in......

"The non-selection of Cueto, he said, was because the righthander, who is 9-4 with a 2.26 earned run average, is slated to pitch next Sunday for the Reds and would be unavailable to pitch in an All-Star Game two days later. La Russa said he also removed Milwaukee's Zack Greinke (9-2) from consideration because he had been told Greinke would be pitching next Sunday."

Read more: http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseb...#ixzz1zRrWlQEx

So name them to the team and then replace them.

Wootylicous · 07-02-2012, 09:08 AM

Trout is a goddamn beast.

Giantsfan1080 · 07-02-2012, 09:57 AM

What team would be a good fit for Hamels besides the Dodgers? Pitt should trade for him even though they need bats.

Hines · 07-02-2012, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Giantsfan1080

What team would be a good fit for Hamels besides the Dodgers? Pitt should trade for him even though they need bats.

I would LOVE Greinke or Hamels. It'd probably take less to trade for Greinke, but I'd do it.

Pirates could give up next to little for Cody Ross and trade a nice few pieces for Greinke. Greinke, Burnett, and McDonald will win division IMO.

ImBrotherCain · 07-02-2012, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Giantsfan1080

What team would be a good fit for Hamels besides the Dodgers? Pitt should trade for him even though they need bats.

I doubt they could sign him long term making giving up someone like Cole or Taillion hard to do.

If I were the Bucs and I could get Hamles to sign a 5-7 year deal I would have no problem trading one of their big pitching prospects.

BloodBrother · 07-02-2012, 10:23 AM

Wish the Angels traded for an arm with Haren being horrible in June and Ervin being the freakin headcase he is

oh and why did Dunn make the team as a DH over Edwin Encarnacion? Come on now

gonna suck when he comes in to pinch hit late in the game only to strike out

yodapoop · 07-02-2012, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Giantsfan1080

So name them to the team and then replace them.

LaRussa is retired tho...he doesn't wanna do that much work....

Plus, the starting pitcher that was a really bad choice was Cole Hamels, so he woulda had to choose between the two to piss off still...

Giantsfan1080 · 07-02-2012, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ImBrotherCain

I doubt they could sign him long term making giving up someone like Cole or Taillion hard to do.

If I were the Bucs and I could get Hamles to sign a 5-7 year deal I would have no problem trading one of their big pitching prospects.

The Pirates need to make a splash. They haven't signed anyone in forever and have enough money available I think.

holt_bruce81 · 07-02-2012, 10:45 AM

Damn you Giants! First you **** up the all star voting, now you sign Gustavo Cabrera? I hate you.

holt_bruce81 · 07-02-2012, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bengals78

He has whined the last 3-4 times he pitched vs Cincinnati.

This is false.

tjsunstein · 07-02-2012, 11:06 AM

Hamels is looking for something in between Weaver (5/85) and Sabathia (7/161) so Im not sure the list of teams willing to offer that kind of coin after trading "3 good young players" that the Phillies are looking for.

holt_bruce81 · 07-02-2012, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by tjsunstein

Hamels is looking for something in between Weaver (5/85) and Sabathia (7/161) so Im not sure the list of teams willing to offer that kind of coin after trading "3 good young players" that the Phillies are looking for.

Cardinals have the pieces and the money to make a deal like this but I don't know if Mo would do it.

Smooth Criminal · 07-02-2012, 12:09 PM

Rosenthals article for the Pirates to go all in and get Grienke or Hamels is awesome. I'd love to see the Pirates make a big time move like this. Of course they won't sign either long term but as long as the price is right I'd love to get one of those two and shore up the rotation in which Karstens has barely played, Bedard is falling off lately, and Correia is anything but certain.

A move like this could set them up with 3 very good pitchers for the rest of the year. I love it.

Giantsfan1080 · 07-02-2012, 12:24 PM

Rosenthal article? I brought it up first.

holt_bruce81 · 07-02-2012, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Criminal

Rosenthals article for the Pirates to go all in and get Grienke or Hamels is awesome. I'd love to see the Pirates make a big time move like this. Of course they won't sign either long term but as long as the price is right I'd love to get one of those two and shore up the rotation in which Karstens has barely played, Bedard is falling off lately, and Correia is anything but certain.

A move like this could set them up with 3 very good pitchers for the rest of the year. I love it.

It doesn't make much sense to me.

Pirates have a good team and I'm not saying don't try to improve it, but you can still go after lesser talents that would be great additions to that team. If I was a Pirates fan I wouldn't want to get rid of the future for a 3-month rental.

Hines · 07-02-2012, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by holt_bruce81

It doesn't make much sense to me.

Pirates have a good team and I'm not saying don't try to improve it, but you can still go after lesser talents that would be great additions to that team. If I was a Pirates fan I wouldn't want to get rid of the future for a 3-month rental.

Just depends on who those future players are.

If it is someone like Rudy Owens, Jeff Locke, Justin Wilson, Robbie Grossman, or a few of the bonus babies that we drafted and signed, I could see it. If it was Cole, Taillon, Bell, Heredia, Marte(maybe), then no, I wouldn't do it.

Smooth Criminal · 07-02-2012, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by holt_bruce81

It doesn't make much sense to me.

Pirates have a good team and I'm not saying don't try to improve it, but you can still go after lesser talents that would be great additions to that team. If I was a Pirates fan I wouldn't want to get rid of the future for a 3-month rental.

Rentals really don't cost that much, and now that the rules have changed so that teams don't get a draft pick when rentals leave, it could be even cheaper.

I wouldnt give up any elite prospect, and by that I only mean Cole, Taillon, Marte, Bell, and Heredia. Everyone else is fair game.

I'm not talking about giving away the future, but making a huge improvement to the pitching staff and really trying to make a run rather than just hope what we have holds up and gets by is the better move in my opinion. Of course, this all depends on what the players cost, but I really don't think it will be that expensive to get them once the deadline comes around.

iowatreat54 · 07-02-2012, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by yodapoop

Seriously??? I guess I haven't seen the full rosters, but thats not good. LaHair I'd say so, but yeah, how about Lawrie over Castro, or yeah even Lawrie over Desmond?

Lowrie over Desmond, yes, but Castro I'm guessing made it because he can do more than just hit HRs.

Also, the entertainment of watching Castro play the field is invaluable.