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Old 07-16-2012, 05:05 PM    (permalink
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If Marte wasn't so inconsistent, I'd be with you. But boy has he been frustrating in AAA this year. Let him develop. I don't want another Pedro, Tabs, or Presley. I want a Walker and Cutch. They let them develop. They rushed Pedro, Tabs, and Presley.

If they bring him up, he's going to struggle I think. Once he learns to take pitches and not swing at everything, go right ahead and bring him up.
He's been doing great for a lengthy enough stretch of the season. The team has said through reporters that he's ready and its time for weeks. The only reason he isn't up is cause they might trade him and they don't want him to look bad the two weeks before that.
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He's been doing great for a lengthy enough stretch of the season. The team has said through reporters that he's ready and its time for weeks. The only reason he isn't up is cause they might trade him and they don't want him to look bad the two weeks before that.
Which is why I think he could be down. Why bring him up and he sucks and kill his value? I want him up, but I'd rather keep his stock as high as possible.

I want James Shields now. He is sort of available and I would definitively trade Taillon for Shields. Shields isn't a free agent until 2015.
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4-0 D-backs.
Not a single ball hit hard.
5 bloop hits in a row.
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Votto is out for a few weeks with minor knee surgery.
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4-0 D-backs.
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5 bloop hits in a row.
How could a bloop hit go for a bases clearing double?
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Votto is out for a few weeks with minor knee surgery.
And there goes the Reds.
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3-4 weeks officially for Votto. Sucks for him. I like Votto. But I can't help but smile with regards to the Pirates.
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I hate watching Ervin pitch

and I hate his horrendous facial hair
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You'll only see him for a few more months. Then the Pirates will sign him and I'll have to deal with him.
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Ervin for Taillon and Mccutchen

we'll throw in Vernon Wells
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Why is Jonathan Sanchez on the mound again?! Why?

Where is Jake Odorizzi? That was an obvious call up after the break and put the scrub on waivers situation.

The Royals are more talented than a lot of teams, but the Mariners are actually a team that's both far less talented and has a worse record...and they just pounded out 5 runs in the first inning off of that **** bag. Every single one of the first 5 batters of the game scored.
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Votto injury will require the Reds to actually make a move by the trading deadline now.
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Well the Twins put up 7 in the first. That was fun to watch.
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Quentin Berry has been a very very pleasant surprise.
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Votto injury will require the Reds to actually make a move by the trading deadline now.
Carlos Quentin did get pulled from the lineup tonight, so.......
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so thats what happens when you have a bullpen consisting of mostly 39-40 year olds. Nice pitch to Boesch, Hawkins

with ervin pitching today I was expecting a loss anyway though
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Sploosh....if it happens.

This team is horrific without Votto.
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Trevor Rosenthal could solve the Cardinals bullpen issues. It'll be interesting to see how we use Fuentes when he gets called up, if we use him and Scrabble/Browning strictly as lefty specialist I think our pen will be fine, you could make it stronger by getting a starter and moving Kelly down there. Matheny gets in trouble when he tries to extend our lefties, they should never pitch to a right-handed batter.

I hate the fact that most of the Quality starters on the trade block are in the NL Central, so I'm not sure we'd be able to work out a trade for a Ryan Dempster. I would offer a package that includes Shelby Miller and Matt Adams and another prospect for Cole Hamels. I think that could get it done.
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It was right on the line and rolled to the wall. Wasn't hit hard at all.
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http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?co...690276901-1028
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Yeah that wasn't really a bloop. Just good hitting.
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Why is Jonathan Sanchez on the mound again?! Why?

Where is Jake Odorizzi? That was an obvious call up after the break and put the scrub on waivers situation.

The Royals are more talented than a lot of teams, but the Mariners are actually a team that's both far less talented and has a worse record...and they just pounded out 5 runs in the first inning off of that **** bag. Every single one of the first 5 batters of the game scored.
Wow. I was too locked in to Sanchez playing today to see that Salvador Perez got MOVED DOWN to #9 in the lineup. Are you ******* kidding me? He's been destroying everyone. I don't have the numbers on everyone else, but he very easily could be the best player in baseball since he came back from being injured if you take into account that he's a great catcher.
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Which is why I think he could be down. Why bring him up and he sucks and kill his value? I want him up, but I'd rather keep his stock as high as possible.

I want James Shields now. He is sort of available and I would definitively trade Taillon for Shields. Shields isn't a free agent until 2015.
That's definitely why he's down. But I think it's dumb. Do you really think a team ready to trade for him will change their opinion over 2 weeks? Fans overreact like that, baseball people know better.

Marte has as many RBIs as the Prates tonight. I know it's not a fair thing to say, but it's true. He's been great, he should be up helping this team. It'd be different if we wernt desperate, playing a utility if every day in the of.
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The Pirates need corner outfielders. Their defense is abysmal. Josh Harrison is playing on the warning track all game and STILL couldn't catch the ball at the track. Put Gorkys in the line up. I don't care that he can't hit. At least I know he'll catch the damn ball.
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Our pitching steps up, the offense goes down the pooper. Excellent.
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