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Old 07-18-2012, 10:04 AM    (permalink
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We've all be saying for a while we have no idea why anyone pitches to Cutch. Especially lefties, but teams keep doing it.

That's one of the reasons I want a hitter at the deadline so bad. Get me someone to out behind Cutch in the line up. Make sure we get to keep watching Cutch get pitches.
Yeah I don't know why either. If there is a base open and at any time in the game, you walk him. But with Walker being so locked in as well, I could see why. If the Pirates could get consistent hitting, this team would be dangerous. Jones/McGehee has a nice platoon and Alvarez can be the most feared hitter on the team when he is on. They just need it consistently.
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Yeah I don't know why either. If there is a base open and at any time in the game, you walk him. But with Walker being so locked in as well, I could see why. If the Pirates could get consistent hitting, this team would be dangerous. Jones/McGehee has a nice platoon and Alvarez can be the most feared hitter on the team when he is on. They just need it consistently.
The way I see it, adding a clean up hitter and Marte could give the Pirates a good lineup. I'd love to get Upton, Quentin, or Willingham and put them at cleanup. Have Walker keep batting in front of cutch. Platoon 1B in the 5 hole. Pedro at 6 and Marte leads off. We're getting good production out of the catchers and Barmes is acceptable in the 8 spot if he keeps playing great defense. Of course, getting Upton likely means giving up Marte and having Presley lead off.
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The way I see it, adding a clean up hitter and Marte could give the Pirates a good lineup. I'd love to get Upton, Quentin, or Willingham and put them at cleanup. Have Walker keep batting in front of cutch. Platoon 1B in the 5 hole. Pedro at 6 and Marte leads off. We're getting good production out of the catchers and Barmes is acceptable in the 8 spot if he keeps playing great defense. Of course, getting Upton likely means giving up Marte and having Presley lead off.
Agreed. I actually like Presley. He's mostly a fourth OFer, but I believe he can produce when given the chance. He's swinging the bat pretty well lately.
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Agreed. I actually like Presley. He's mostly a fourth OFer, but I believe he can produce when given the chance. He's swinging the bat pretty well lately.
He had a good showing last year, but he obp isnt good enough to warrant a spot in the lineup just ahead of Cutch. We need people on base in front of Cutch so he can stop hitting solo homers.
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I love Michael Brantley so damn much.
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Wow... Red Sox and Marlins are rumored to be discussing a huge deal.

Crawford and a prospect for Hanley and Bell.

It is being dismissed at the moment but where there is smoke there is fire.
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lmao that has to be a joke

who in the hell would take on that Crawford contract, add in that he probably needs TJ surgery, and in the process give away a better player(Hanley). None of it makes any sense for Miami

yea they probably feel Hanley is a malcontent, but come on
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Oh wait, just read Heath Bell would be part of the deal. He's clearly the centerpiece of this
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Cardinals are lookin like a little league team right now. 3 errors in the first inning.
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lmao that has to be a joke

who in the hell would take on that Crawford contract, add in that he probably needs TJ surgery, and in the process give away a better player(Hanley). None of it makes any sense for Miami

yea they probably feel Hanley is a malcontent, but come on
This x100. Someone is making stuff up.
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This x100. Someone is making stuff up.
Here is the article

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseb...ade/56309810/1
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and here is proof that it was DOA. It was a dumb idea to begin with but I know it came from a Rosenthal article.

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ESPN's Buster Olney reports that there are no current discussions between the Red Sox and Marlins about a deal that would send Carl Crawford to Miami for Hanley Ramirez and Heath Bell.
That was fun while it lasted. According to Olney, the proposal was brought up briefly as a concept, though it's not clear by which side, and died immediately.
Related: Marlins, Hanley Ramirez, Heath Bell
Source: Buster Olney on Twitter
Jul 18 - 2:12 PM
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Nobody is going to give **** for Crawford. Unless the Red Sox eat a ton of that contract, most teams wouldn't take him for free.
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Freese kills Brewer pitching ever since the NLCS. I'm glad last years postseason wasn't a fluke for him, having a really good season. Such a likeable guy too.
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and here is proof that it was DOA. It was a dumb idea to begin with but I know it came from a Rosenthal article.
Oh I don't care either way... To be honest I would probably rather keep Crawford as we have decent SS options right now. Although that contract is a killer.

What I took it as is that the Sox are potentially willing to deal Crawford.
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What I took it as is that the Sox are potentially willing to deal Crawford.
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Well after last year's season and his ridiculous contract any smart GM would try to unload him.
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There are rumors that the Cards and Mariners are talking....Kevin Millwood and Jason Vargas to St. Louis.
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The Pirates look to have 3 picks in the first 40 of next year's draft. I wonder if the Pirates will use that pick in a trade for someone like Carlos Quentin.
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Rumor has it, Phillies are prepared to offer 6/135 to Hamels.
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THE MLB Draft lottery was today. Only teams that are eligible are the 10 teams with the smallest market or one of the 10 teams that generates the least amount of revenue.

Teams that got a supplemental 2nd round pick:

Pick 6: Detroit
Pick 5: Milwaukee
Pick 4: Oakland
Pick 3: Colorado
Pick 2: Cleveland
Pick 1: San Diego

Teams that got a supplemental 1st round pick:

1. Royals
2. Pirates
3. Dbacks
4. Orioles
5. Reds
6. Marlins

St. Louis and Tampa Bay were the two teams of 14 that didnt receive an extra draft pick.
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You can trade the supplemental picks?
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Yeah, these picks are tradeable.
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Royals need to package that pick as part of a deal to get a LEGIT starting pitcher
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Not the best start JMac.
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