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Old 06-08-2013, 09:14 PM    (permalink
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Votto was off the bag. BS call.
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The best prospect in Baseball returned to the lineup tonight for the Memphis Redbirds. Going 1 for 4 with a double.
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And this is why the win last night was so important for the Cardinals...
Oh yea cause losing a series in early June with a 4 game lead would have just been a devastating blow to the team.
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Oh yea cause losing a series in early June with a 4 game lead would have just been a devastating blow to the team.

Every series is important. More games you win in June is the less games you have to win in September.
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Hey look at that Carlos Carrasco is back

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Gerritt Cole the Jerk will pitch this Tuesday against Giants. It should be on MLBN at 7pm.
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C'mon Mets. Just let us sweep you again - It'll be fun.

On another note: The Boss comes back tomorrow. Him + Ozuna together finally.

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Royals 5 in a row. Getting back into the picture. Who knew they'd function better if they used the ridiculous amount of statistics that are available to them?
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Considering he missed a ton of time, Ortiz = MVP?
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Considering he missed a ton of time, Ortiz = MVP?
Miguel Cabrera wants to know if you are on drugs.
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Cabrera has 15 more game played and 70 more at bats. Ortiz's stats also tend to come at much more important junctures of the game.
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An OF prospect that has absolutely no power at all but gets on base a crapload. Does he have a place in the majors?
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An OF prospect that has absolutely no power at all but gets on base a crapload. Does he have a place in the majors?
I think so. I always like Scott Podsednik
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Cabrera has 15 more game played and 70 more at bats. Ortiz's stats also tend to come at much more important junctures of the game.
Cabrera is just flat out better.

Ortiz being CLUTCHZZZzzZZ doesn't make him more of an MVP candidate.
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Cabrera has 15 more game played and 70 more at bats. Ortiz's stats also tend to come at much more important junctures of the game.
I know Ortiz just had a walkoff this past week, but nothing about Cabrera's numbers are fake. He does a lot of his damage early in the game or just pretty much all game so I'm not sure how Ortiz's stats are more important in terms of timing?

And with all those extra at bats and games played, his average is still 40 pts higher.
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Cabrera has 15 more game played and 70 more at bats. Ortiz's stats also tend to come at much more important junctures of the game.
Cabby with RISP...

.500/.598/.971

Cabby with RISP and 2 outs...

.593/.718/1.148

I think he's managed to knock down important junctures just fine.
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Cabrera is just flat out better.

Ortiz being CLUTCHZZZzzZZ doesn't make him more of an MVP candidate.
It certainly ******* helps. So does having 2 less doubles in 70 less at bats and better per-ab and per-game HR and RBI numbers.
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Ortiz is not as good or better than Cabrera...so no, it really doesn't.
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But Cabby has more homers, RBIs, plays an actual position, has a higher batting average, has a higher OBP, has a higher slugging percentage, doesn't play in Fenway....
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And is better in every area of the game...yeah.
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Our we really have this debate? Lol! A better argument would be Chris Davis vs Miguel.
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I could go into how Cabby owns Ortiz in every saber stat too, but people get pissy if I bring that up. But yes, it's a stupid ass debate.
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Most of those numbers are based off of cumulative stats.

Ortiz deserves to be in the conversation in any case.
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Where Ortiz falls up very short. And no, he doesn't. The conversation is Cabby, Chris Davis/Manny Machado, Trout, James Loney, Mauer, Pedroia and Josh Donaldson.
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Most of those numbers are based off of cumulative stats.

Ortiz deserves to be in the conversation in any case.
Batting average, SLG and OBP are cumulative? Miggy's average is 51 points higher, his OBP is 62 points higher, and his SLG is 26 points higher. His wOBA is 39 points higher.

There is no discussion here.
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