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Old 01-16-2014, 02:57 PM    (permalink
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youre a fan of a AL team, you set your lineup then, use your bullpen, its not that hard
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youre a fan of a AL team, you set your lineup then, use your bullpen, its not that hard
Managing isn't that hard period. Let's not pretend like pulling off a double switch requires a Phd.
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Tanaka to Yankees. 7 years $155 million. Opt out after 4th year.
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Holy hell that's a monster deal. Is it an opt out for the Yankees, Tanaka or both?
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Thats more than double what Darvish got and he's not even as good as Darvish, and he's more likely to blow his arm out than Darvish. The Yankees being the Yankees.
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Holy crap that's a ******** of money.
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Thats more than double what Darvish got and he's not even as good as Darvish, and he's more likely to blow his arm out than Darvish. The Yankees being the Yankees.
Well, the Darvish posting fee was $32M more. But yeah, that is a massive deal.
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Wow... does that throw the Yanks Luxury Tax limit? If not it is damn close.
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Yeah the Yanks flew over the limit.

If it's an opt out it's all Tanaka's decision.
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Yeah the Yanks flew over the limit.

If it's an opt out it's all Tanaka's decision.
Well they don't have ARod's contract this season which frees 26(?) million and Tanaka should only add ~22 million. Right? Or am I way off base?
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Well they don't have ARod's contract this season which frees 26(?) million and Tanaka should only add ~22 million. Right? Or am I way off base?
Nope. Not as clean as that.

See here: http://grantland.com/the-triangle/wh...ture-and-more/
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The Yanks infield is still atrocious.

1B- Tex is coming off a serious wrist injury, and will be 34 while he was already regressing hard

2B- Brian Roberts? I don't know, Roberts hasn't played a half season in 5 years

SS- Jeter barely played last year, will be 40 in June and will be a statue at short

3B- Kelly Johnson is serviceable, but that's about it
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Nope. Not as clean as that.

See here: http://grantland.com/the-triangle/wh...ture-and-more/
Gotcha. Well they are going to be doling out big money going forward... that is just insane to me.
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The Yanks infield is still atrocious.

1B- Tex is coming off a serious wrist injury, and will be 34 while he was already regressing hard

2B- Brian Roberts? I don't know, Roberts hasn't played a half season in 5 years

SS- Jeter barely played last year, will be 40 in June and will be a statue at short

3B- Kelly Johnson is serviceable, but that's about it
Yeah, it's bad. Now that they are over $189M though, you'll likely see the spending continue/ potential trades explored.
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If you have time to read some long form, here's a good article from ESPN that describes the type of hell Tanaka's arm has been through in Japan.

It's not about Tanaka but about youth baseball in Japan and how they treat their young pitchers. Tanaka is mentioned several times towards the end of the article though. As a high schooler he threw 742 pitches in two days. Japanese culture is crazy when it comes to pitching. After an outing they go back and pitch some more because that's how they cool down. If they get injured or their arms blow out it's not because they're tired, but because they didn't pitch correctly.

Darvish didn't go through this because apparently his father, who is not Japanese, protected him from it for the most part. Can anybody think of a starting pitcher from Japan who has sustained good results throughout the course of his career? Nomo had two, Dice-K had one or two, Tomo Ohka had a few. But after the experiences of those guys I don't know why people are continuing to throw money at Japanese pitchers that have arms that have been threw hell.
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Kuroda I guess ?
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Kuroda says he absolutely hates what his youth coaches did to him, and he still gets angry/antsy about it.
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Oh yeah, I forgot about him.

Also, here's an article about the hell that Kuroda went threw while playing baseball as a young boy in Japan.
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5th richest contract for a pitcher and he hasn't thrown a single pitch in MLB

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Bummed about not getting Tanaka, but think it could be a blessing in disguise. Since it's the Cubs he's going to be battling Yarvish for Cy Youngs the next 7 years.
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Another fun fact about Tanaka's arm, he threw 160 pitches in games of the Japanese World Series and then came in the next day in relief.
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Another fun fact about Tanaka's arm, he threw 160 pitches in games of the Japanese World Series and then came in the next day in relief.
In the 50's and 60's this would go on all the time. As much as major league GMs and Dr. Andrews like to think they figured out how to prevent arm injuries, they haven't. Tanaka is just a likely to get hurt as any American minor leaguer who went the "traditional" 40 innings increment, 100 pitch, 200 innings max route.
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I'm fine with the deal. Weeks ago a team source said they were either going for 189, or far over it. Wouldn't be surprised if we added Ubaldo or Garza now as well.
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I think the deal is pretty good for the Yankees. It's a big gamble, but there weren't any other high reward SP options.
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They had to do it if they wanted a shot of competing this year, so I am fine with it. It's not my money. Go, Evil Empire, go!
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