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Old 07-13-2014, 11:11 AM    (permalink
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I love Kershaw. Best pitcher in the Majors, but he only pitches once every 5 days. Cutch impacts every game.
This is true, but Kershaw impacts that one game so much that it ends up being a discussion.

I would still take McCutchen, but that's mostly because of the injury risk that goes with pitchers.
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Old 07-13-2014, 11:16 AM    (permalink
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This is true, but Kershaw impacts that one game so much that it ends up being a discussion.

I would still take McCutchen, but that's mostly because of the injury risk that goes with pitchers.
A discussion, yes. But if you lose the other 4 games, then is that one game really that important?
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Brock Holt before everyone.

Just kidding, Trout, Cutch, Miggy, others.
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Old 07-13-2014, 11:26 AM    (permalink
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Brock Holt before everyone.

Just kidding, Trout, Cutch, Miggy, others.
Holt wishes he was Josh Harrison.
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A discussion, yes. But if you lose the other 4 games, then is that one game really that important?
How often does Andrew McCutchen singlehandedly win a game? McCutchen impacts 5 games at a much smaller level than Kershaw impacts one. It more or less balances out.
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Pedro Alvarez... thoughts on his defense Hines...
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Thinking about his defense makes me want him to go away.
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How often does Andrew McCutchen singlehandedly win a game? McCutchen impacts 5 games at a much smaller level than Kershaw impacts one. It more or less balances out.
Well, he won one last night.
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Pedro Alvarez... thoughts on his defense Hines...
His defense is fine IMO. It's just the throwing part that he needs to work out. It all starts with what is between his ears.
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How often does Andrew McCutchen singlehandedly win a game? McCutchen impacts 5 games at a much smaller level than Kershaw impacts one. It more or less balances out.
I mean, there is an actual statistic that measures how many wins you are worth, and elite hitters/fielders generally perform better than elite starting pitchers.
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The Royals are pretty much throwing this game today. With the ******* All-Star break coming up, Ned decides to rest his best players and play Ibanez and Aoki as his corner outfielders with ******* Bruce Chen on the mound. Ensuring the 4-game sweep by the one team they can't afford to lose series to.

The guy is the most spectacular ****** I've ever witnessed. There is no logic in his actions.
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I mean, there is an actual statistic that measures how many wins you are worth, and elite hitters/fielders generally perform better than elite starting pitchers.
Usually, yes, but not always. There weren't many players more valuable than prime Pedro Martinez, and there aren't many more valuable than Kershaw right now.
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Usually, yes, but not always. There weren't many players more valuable than prime Pedro Martinez, and there aren't many more valuable than Kershaw right now.
No, but Trout and Cutch are two of them. Hines is right.
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The Royals are pretty much throwing this game today. With the ******* All-Star break coming up, Ned decides to rest his best players and play Ibanez and Aoki as his corner outfielders with ******* Bruce Chen on the mound. Ensuring the 4-game sweep by the one team they can't afford to lose series to.

The guy is the most spectacular ****** I've ever witnessed. There is no logic in his actions.
So to top everything off, with Cain and Sal Perez benched, Ned Yost is bringing in Yordano Ventura out of the bullpen with a man on first and no outs. Apparently the game isn't important enough to start your best players, but it's important enough to risk destroying your young ace while already down 2 runs and only 2 fluke hits against Verlander's husk? And the Royals have a deep, rested bullpen.
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Ned brings Sal and Cain in with the game (somehow) tied. PH's Sal for Brett Hayes (automatic IBB with first base open), and PINCH RUNS Cain at third ******* base instead of pinch hitting him for Aoki after Ausmus already made the decision to go with a LHP to relieve Verlander.

Aoki's got good numbers against lefties, but Cain does as well and has great pinch hitting numbers, and a better chance to get the ball in the outfield.
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King Felix is actually the best player so far this year, but Kershaw would be up there if not for the injuries earlier.
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Rangers are 3-22 their last 25 games holy crap

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We still need bats in the worst way. Next year is make or break for the franchise.
I bet they make a deal, with next year in mind, this year. In other words, they'll be buyers at the deadline. OF, SS, and bullpen. And whoever they get will basically get an extra half year to mesh with the guys in preparation for next season's run at the playoffs.

Any chance in hell the Rockies would take stud pitchers for Cargo?
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Did you have a point? Is Pedro Martinez the most valuable player of all time?
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