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Old 11-17-2010, 10:51 PM    (permalink
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It seems like the White Sox are willing to deal Gavin Floyd. He'd be a real nice fit in the Mets rotation and he's signed to a team friendly deal. I wonder what Williams would want in return.
CSN Chicago just said that Williams told the Marlins they could talk to Ozzie Guillen about managing only if they gave the Sox a top level prospect.

That should tell you just about what you can expect from the assclown.
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CSN Chicago just said that Williams told the Marlins they could talk to Ozzie Guillen about managing only if they gave the Sox a top level prospect.

That should tell you just about what you can expect from the assclown.
Haha. I still can't believe Williams won a WS.
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Floyd's deal starts kicking up next year. It is $5 million next year, then 7, then 9.
The basic pattern with Floyd is that he has a really ****** start in April and May, turns it on in June, is great in July, then has some kind of injury after August. Just don't rely on him to win any big games. Either Floyd is used as part of a big trade, or they fill other holes. His numbers look solid, but he's been real up and down after 2008. Selling high won't be the worst thing in the world, as long as everyone else thinks he's better than he really is.
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Old 11-17-2010, 11:42 PM    (permalink
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So it begins. If he's 80 - 85% of what he was last year that's a good signing. If he's what he was last year then it's a great signing, he was rock solid here in Tampa. Any word on the Tigers signing Carl Crawford as well? Rays Index has said all along that it was the Tigers or Angels(no surprise) with the Tigers being the favorites.
I don't see Crawford headed to Detroit, but I'd love it. My money is on the Angels.
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DLR could be off the market by Thanksgiving. Looks like the Pirates and Nats are favs. I want to land him so bad, but I'm also nervous as hell.
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Buster Olney thinks the Cardinals will sign Juan Uride, yippie!

And reports are that Albert Pujols is seeking a 10 year 300 million dollar deal.
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Old 11-18-2010, 12:09 AM    (permalink
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So, Uggla. The Braves are a good year from Freeman, and a competent CF from a solid lineup.
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Old 11-18-2010, 12:15 AM    (permalink
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And reports are that Albert Pujols is seeking a 10 year 300 million dollar deal.
Yikes, so much for the hometown discount.
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Old 11-18-2010, 12:17 AM    (permalink
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I'd pay as much money as possible to keep that dude around our ball club. IDC what else happens. He IS our offense.
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Old 11-18-2010, 12:19 AM    (permalink
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So, Uggla. The Braves are a good year from Freeman, and a competent CF from a solid lineup.
Well, BJ Upton could be had conceivably I suppose.
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Buster Olney thinks the Cardinals will sign Juan Uride, yippie!

And reports are that Albert Pujols is seeking a 10 year 300 million dollar deal.
If true, let Albert walk. What team has the money to sign that contract? The Yanks have Teixeira.
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If true, let Albert walk. What team has the money to sign that contract? The Yanks have Teixeira.
That's what they were talking about all day today on the radio, Pujols isn't worth that big of a contract. 5-6 years around 150 million is the max In my opinion the Cardinals should offer, Don't want another A-Rod contract on your hands, where toward the end of the contract your still paying the guy a boatload of cash to hit 20 home runs.
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Pujols deserves it...
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I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.
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Luis Castillo, Ollie Perez, and a low level minor leaguer.
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I say we give them Cory Vaughn to be nice.
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Floyd's deal starts kicking up next year. It is $5 million next year, then 7, then 9.
The basic pattern with Floyd is that he has a really ****** start in April and May, turns it on in June, is great in July, then has some kind of injury after August. Just don't rely on him to win any big games. Either Floyd is used as part of a big trade, or they fill other holes. His numbers look solid, but he's been real up and down after 2008. Selling high won't be the worst thing in the world, as long as everyone else thinks he's better than he really is.
He puts up pretty good numbers in a hitters ballark in the AL. Put him in the the NL with a huge ballpark and I think he could slot in real nice. His FIP and xFIP the last 2 years have actually showed he's pitching better than what his E.R.A. indicates and it's not like that numbers looks bad.
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Casey Kelly, Jacoby Ellsbury, Anthony Rizzo, Stolmy Pimentel, and one of Kalish/Anderson. Lower level prospects if you want them too.
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I seen the BoSox are starting out with Bard/Ellsbury for a Upton deal. That'd be a good starting point for them.
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I seen the BoSox are starting out with Bard/Ellsbury for a Upton deal. That'd be a good starting point for them.
Bard would be a big change of direction for them. I thought they'd trade Papelbon or just let him walk after this year and give Bard the job.
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Yeah, Bard is probably a chip we aren't willing to give up. He's taking Paps job soon.
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Ellsbury is overrated. The D'backs need to get way more than that.
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Ellsbury is overrated. The D'backs need to get way more than that.
He is incredibly overrated and if I were them I wouldn't take anything less than a package of Bard and a bunch or prospects, but he's good enough to be a chip. More valuable to a National League team than he is for us at the moment.
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I haven't watched Justin Upton. What exactly makes him so valuable to give up Bard and Ellsbury?
Ellsbury is one of the best leadoff men in the bigs and has great range in CF.
Bard is lights out in the back end (wherever it may be) of a game.

Is it potential? Is he a great defensive player? Is number don't look all that great TBH so I'm just curious.
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Let's here your offers for Justin Upton
Brooks Conrad, Kyle Farsnworth and Rick Ankiel. Oh, and Nate McClouth.
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